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    Default Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    You mean as corrupt as the judges sent into Europe to judge. Not Euro judges. Yes we all know Amercians are scared to travel.

    I'm not mocking Jesus. He's a class fighter. I don't mind a guy that has skill and knows how to play dirty. That's a good sign. Like Hopkins.

    Rantcatrat, I love the Super Six. I'm just saying how it can't work not that I want it to fail.
    Technicalities. At least one of the three judges brought in was bought off. Fact. The other was maybe a big fan of rabbit punches?

    Roy Jones getting screwed in Korea means no U.S. fighter ever has to travel as you well know, Dirrell/Froch was just reinforcement for those that that must of forgot.

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    Default Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    You mean as corrupt as the judges sent into Europe to judge. Not Euro judges. Yes we all know Amercians are scared to travel.

    I'm not mocking Jesus. He's a class fighter. I don't mind a guy that has skill and knows how to play dirty. That's a good sign. Like Hopkins.

    Rantcatrat, I love the Super Six. I'm just saying how it can't work not that I want it to fail.
    Technicalities. At least one of the three judges brought in was bought off. Fact. The other was maybe a big fan of rabbit punches?

    Roy Jones getting screwed in Korea means no U.S. fighter ever has to travel as you well know, it just shows the goodness in their heart when they do so.
    Ward-Froch would be like Hagler-Hearns for him

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    Default Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

    my only problem with this tournament is how they manage to keep it together, for example if dirrel is knocked out by abraham next round then why would he stick around for his 3rd fight, knowing he cant get through and facing a third straight loss, same with taylor, if he loses again, its too late to get a replacment for the last round of fights

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    Default Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

    Everyone showed up for the first round so it's got farther than I expected.

    I don't think it's dead at the are still many different styles to be matched. Nothing is a certainty at this point.

    It's pretty cool when you can say 9 of the top 10 Super Middleweights have in their last fight or their next fight, fought another top 10 Super Middleweight.
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    Default Re: The Super Six is nearly dead. Fact.

    let the best man win. srew whoevers the favorite or underdog .

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    Default Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

    going in US seem the only way to get a fair fight alllo wake up son, we just saw how "fair" was the referee during Kessler-Ward. ward was allowed to do whatever he wanted to do, clinch, headbutt, and so on....

    Nobody finds it strange that a week ago all referees for the fights were US based ?? I mean common, it was not accidental at all.

    a fair fight is either in Europe/US but with true neutral and impartial referees !!!!

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    Default Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by SEB View Post
    going in US seem the only way to get a fair fight alllo wake up son, we just saw how "fair" was the referee during Kessler-Ward. ward was allowed to do whatever he wanted to do, clinch, headbutt, and so on....

    Nobody finds it strange that a week ago all referees for the fights were US based ?? I mean common, it was not accidental at all.

    a fair fight is either in Europe/US but with true neutral and impartial referees !!!!


    Yes but with Froch-Dirrell you had corrupt refereeing and corrupt judging, here you just had corrupt refereeing. Clearly as far as fairness goes U.S.A.>Britain.

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    Default Re: The Super Six is nearly dead. Fact.

    let's try Germany then :-)

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    Default Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    my only problem with this tournament is how they manage to keep it together, for example if dirrel is knocked out by abraham next round then why would he stick around for his 3rd fight, knowing he cant get through and facing a third straight loss, same with taylor, if he loses again, its too late to get a replacment for the last round of fights
    I see your point, however, I disagree and I think that it doesn't kill the interest in the end: The thrill to me is not that much to know who will win the whole thing but to see the bests fighting the bests and not grossing their roster with some Zelenoff. Sure, to know who will win is a part of the whole fun but I appreciate even more to see all these different clash of style and of good boxers on such a short period of time, that is the big point of the tournament and it corrects something that MMA does and boxing didn't: loads of quality and meaningful matches to find out who is really the best.
    At the end, even if Taylor would have go get out and be replaced by let's say Green or Lucian Bute, even if these two couldn't win the tournament because of the mathematical probabilities (i.e imagine that Abraham wins a second fight via K.O and that Ward wins his second contest too), wouldn't it be nice to see them step in with the best of the division too? I think it would be ecstatic, and that doesn't mean that they couldn't fight the winner or the top 2 of the tournament after it is finished.
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    Default Re: The Super Six is nearly dead. Fact.

    We`ve now gone from having 3 potential winners to 4 in the space of one fight

    The main man and favourite to win has just been TKO`d, even calzaghe couldnt do that

    The upcoming fights see arguably the top 2 in the division squaring off, andre dirrell flying over to the mother land in a fight he has to win against an unbeaten AA and taylor in complete last chance saloon squares off against the most impressive of the 6fighters so far

    I really cant see how exactly this could be dead already??
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    Default Re: The Super Six is nearly dead. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    We`ve now gone from having 3 potential winners to 4 in the space of one fight

    The main man and favourite to win has just been TKO`d, even calzaghe couldnt do that

    The upcoming fights see arguably the top 2 in the division squaring off, andre dirrell flying over to the mother land in a fight he has to win against an unbeaten AA and taylor in complete last chance saloon squares off against the most impressive of the 6fighters so far

    I really cant see how exactly this could be dead already??
    Abraham-Dirrell is in the States. Dirrell has already said he'll never again fight outside America.

    Taylor needs to retire. And probably will. He's lost 4 of his last 5 fights and been badly KO'd in three. The Ward fight is pointless.

    And lets not start making Ward into something he's not. Kessler was stopped by headbuts tearing his face apart. The fight wasn't stopped through damage Ward did with his fists.
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    Default Re: The Super Six is nearly dead. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    We`ve now gone from having 3 potential winners to 4 in the space of one fight

    The main man and favourite to win has just been TKO`d, even calzaghe couldnt do that

    The upcoming fights see arguably the top 2 in the division squaring off, andre dirrell flying over to the mother land in a fight he has to win against an unbeaten AA and taylor in complete last chance saloon squares off against the most impressive of the 6fighters so far

    I really cant see how exactly this could be dead already??
    Abraham-Dirrell is in the States. Dirrell has already said he'll never again fight outside America.

    Taylor needs to retire. And probably will. He's lost 4 of his last 5 fights and been badly KO'd in three. The Ward fight is pointless.

    And lets not start making Jesus into something he's not. Kessler was stopped by headbuts tearing his face apart. The fight wasn't stopped through damage Jesus did with his fists.

    ward owned him for like 8 of the 10 rounds

    The only rounds kessler won were the ones were not much went down. Almost every time they engaged ward get the better of it. Agreed the guy was clearly nutting kess but he still did a number on him

    Dirrell-AA will be in germany mark my words. He is there main attraction now, andre barely has a fan stateside and could no way sell tickets in the US like AA could in germany

    Agreed taylor is shot and showtime should be looking into a suitable replacement. But he aint been a punching bag for any of his losses and if he fights ward im more than confident he`ll hold his own for at least 9-10rounds
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    Default Re: The Super Six is nearly dead. Fact.

    I don't care how well Jesus won, the fight was stopped due to injuries sustained through headbutts. Not punches. So saying he TKO'd Kessler something Calzaghe couldn't do is ridiculous.

    Mark your words it's in Germany? OK...

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    Am i the only one that doesn't think Jermain Taylor is shot ? i just don't think he's learnt from his mistakes, which makes him more beatable to opponents now they know what to do.

    Jermain Taylor to me seemed to waste so much energy vs Arthur Abraham, just throwing jabs out not really thinking about what his doing, and Arthur Abraham easily picked them off just waiting, until the 2nd half of the fight where Jermain Taylor is vunerable.

    Jermain Taylor has never been relaxed in the ring, and he wastes alot of nervous energy which has cost him, even in slow pace fights with Winky Wright, Bernard Hopkins. He seems so tired and thats because he wastes alot of energy and because he's not relaxed.

    Take George Foreman for example in his 2nd career, even though he was old and fat. Because he was totally relaxed and calm in the ring, he could go 12 hard rounds and still have the energy to come on strong.

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    Default Re: The Super Six is not dead. Fact.

    Taylor is just in it for the money now. He'll retire after another couple of fights, maybe after the next one if Ward sparks him. On the Showtime shows about the SS tournament when all the promoters originally met to discuss the matchups, venues etc. Taylor's promoter got him on the phone at one point and was told "maximise the money." Even at the start he wasn't thinking about getting advantages in certain fights, he was just thinking pension.

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