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As nothing else is yet to be proven, don't believe on this shitty hype brought by crackhead predator sr. All of you would just make fools out of yourselves, believe me. Pac was proven negative before so why doubt him? Why do all of you easily buy a crack head's tale? He might be in some induced state when he said this.
why dismiss it totally?
I don't. But why some of you believe it totally?
an expert in this field has said that the current testing methods used are inadequete so the face he hasnt tested positive yet proves very little
also using childish names like crackhead predator sr reflects worse on you than it does on him
Then call me takamarijuana toker if you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
ill pass..... im not a child as you seem to be
Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamura
Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?
Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.
That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
Ok old fart. But don't worry i won't call you a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
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Originally Posted by mad_takamuraOk old fart. But don't worry i won't call you a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
im 20... i just dont act like i am half that by refering to people who have achieved alot more than either of us by stupid names, so try again
and give me an example of what i have been hypocritcal about
That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBLots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamura
Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?
Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.
That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?
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Originally Posted by mad_takamuraThat's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBLots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamura
Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?
Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.
That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?
Because of the reasons on all 19 threads which you choose to ignore about the inconclusiveness of urine testing.
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Originally Posted by mad_takamuraThat's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBLots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamura
Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?
Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.
That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?
The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.
He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.
The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.
If urine tests is inconclusive then everyone should have a blood test do you agree? On all mdivisions. Not just pbf or Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBQuote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamuraThat's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?
The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.
He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.
The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.
Now we're talkin, how about starting with PBF/Pac?Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamuraIf urine tests is inconclusive then everyone should have a blood test do you agree? On all mdivisions. Not just pbf or Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBQuote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamura
The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.
He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.
The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.
Imo pac will eventually agree in a couple of days. This will surely be a blow to the haters out there and they know who the fuck they are. $40M is something pac won't turn down. This is just dramatizing the hype and as a form of psy war to make the pbf camp believe pac is in to something.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepNow we're talkin, how about starting with PBF/Pac?Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamuraIf urine tests is inconclusive then everyone should have a blood test do you agree? On all mdivisions. Not just pbf or Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB