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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    As nothing else is yet to be proven, don't believe on this shitty hype brought by crackhead predator sr. All of you would just make fools out of yourselves, believe me. Pac was proven negative before so why doubt him? Why do all of you easily buy a crack head's tale? He might be in some induced state when he said this.
    Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

    Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

    Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

    That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    As nothing else is yet to be proven, don't believe on this shitty hype brought by crackhead predator sr. All of you would just make fools out of yourselves, believe me. Pac was proven negative before so why doubt him? Why do all of you easily buy a crack head's tale? He might be in some induced state when he said this.
    Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

    Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

    Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

    That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
    That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    As nothing else is yet to be proven, don't believe on this shitty hype brought by crackhead predator sr. All of you would just make fools out of yourselves, believe me. Pac was proven negative before so why doubt him? Why do all of you easily buy a crack head's tale? He might be in some induced state when he said this.
    Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

    Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

    Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

    That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
    That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

    Because of the reasons on all 19 threads which you choose to ignore about the inconclusiveness of urine testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    As nothing else is yet to be proven, don't believe on this shitty hype brought by crackhead predator sr. All of you would just make fools out of yourselves, believe me. Pac was proven negative before so why doubt him? Why do all of you easily buy a crack head's tale? He might be in some induced state when he said this.
    Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

    Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

    Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

    That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
    That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

    The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

    He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

    The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post

    Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

    Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

    Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

    That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
    That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

    The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

    He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

    The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.
    If urine tests is inconclusive then everyone should have a blood test do you agree? On all mdivisions. Not just pbf or Manny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

    The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

    He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

    The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.
    If urine tests is inconclusive then everyone should have a blood test do you agree? On all mdivisions. Not just pbf or Manny.
    Now we're talkin, how about starting with PBF/Pac?
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post


    The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

    He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

    The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.
    If urine tests is inconclusive then everyone should have a blood test do you agree? On all mdivisions. Not just pbf or Manny.
    Now we're talkin, how about starting with PBF/Pac?
    Imo pac will eventually agree in a couple of days. This will surely be a blow to the haters out there and they know who the fuck they are. $40M is something pac won't turn down. This is just dramatizing the hype and as a form of psy war to make the pbf camp believe pac is in to something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Imo pac will eventually agree in a couple of days.
    I think either Pacquiaos team come to their senses and agree or Pacquiao is about to become One of the biggest sporting scandals ever and a national embarrassment.

    If they agree, that doesnt prove that Pacquiao has been clean, it just means they had no choice, they couldnt run anymore and had to bite the bullet.

    People who know more than me, if he has been taking EPO or something else, and he agrees and stays clean for the entire camp, will he come in lighter than usual? Or look smaller, surely he wouldnt have the staying power to deal with Floyds extra strength in the later rounds.

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    mad takamura,

    when this fight doesn't happen because the "superstitious" pacquiao won't take an itty bitty blood test, i have a suggest for you. why don't you just shoot yourself because you are the one acting like a complete pussy and imbecille. i mean, you've already threatened to "kill" posters here one by one. that to me is evident of a total idiot in desperation mode. and why are you so opposed to paccheat taking this blood test? are you afraid that pacquiao might come out dirty and will be labeled a complete fraud and cheat? in the mean time, go worship a picture of your God pacquiao and ask him why he's being such a coward and pussy!

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    Don't all changes that we eventually come to accept get greeted this way? I'm pretty sure no fan wanted 12 round championship fights, but its the norm now and better for fighters. I see no reason why this can't be the start of Olympic style testing in a sport that can easily have rampant steroid abusers all throughout. The fact that PBF is all for it and Pac is against it speaks volumes. And I don't buy for a second that a guy is so rattled by a needle that he can't recuperate in 2 days time when his profession involves getting punched in the face. I'm afraid of needles and by the time they take the needle out I'm fine. If it were already the standard would he get to be excused from it? No!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post

    Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

    Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

    Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

    That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.
    That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

    The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

    He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

    The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.

    The way I see it, Mayweather is afraid to fight. Why only now the issue had been raised on this blood test thing? Past DLH, Hatton, Cotto and nobody asked then for this shit test thing. As the saying goes: "If one man wants to do a task, he will do it without hesitation otherwise, he will complain, go into lots of talking and make excuses".

    Mind everybody here, Team Pacquiao is not against on this blood test thing, they want to have the test but with some other third party agency. In addition, why USADA? both are professional fighters recognized not only in the USA but to the whole of Planet Earth. Correct me if I'm wrong but USADA is doing testing only for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic Athletes. (Do you think the Major League Baseball will agree to have their testing with a collegiate baseball agency specializing in high school and college baseball leagues oh common, have some common sense). INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
    Last edited by Kamao; 12-27-2009 at 03:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamao View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
    Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

    The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

    He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

    The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.

    The way I see it, Mayweather is afraid to fight. Why only now the issue had been raised on this blood test thing? Past DLH, Hatton, Cotto and nobody asked then for this shit test thing. As the saying goes: "If one man wants to do a task, he will do it without hesitation otherwise, he will complain, go into lots of talking and make excuses".

    Mind everybody here, Team Pacquiao is not against on this blood test thing, they want to have the test but with some other third party agency. In addition, why USADA? both are professional fighters recognized not only in the USA both to the whole of Planet Earth. Correct me if I'm wrong but USADA is doing testing only for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic Athletes. (Do you think the Major League Baseball will agree to have their testing with a collegiate baseball agency specializing in high school and college baseball leagues oh common, have some common sense). INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kamao View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post


    The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

    He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

    The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.

    The way I see it, Mayweather is afraid to fight. Why only now the issue had been raised on this blood test thing? Past DLH, Hatton, Cotto and nobody asked then for this shit test thing. As the saying goes: "If one man wants to do a task, he will do it without hesitation otherwise, he will complain, go into lots of talking and make excuses".

    Mind everybody here, Team Pacquiao is not against on this blood test thing, they want to have the test but with some other third party agency. In addition, why USADA? both are professional fighters recognized not only in the USA both to the whole of Planet Earth. Correct me if I'm wrong but USADA is doing testing only for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic Athletes. (Do you think the Major League Baseball will agree to have their testing with a collegiate baseball agency specializing in high school and college baseball leagues oh common, have some common sense). INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
    waste of a first post.... fact
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    Now that team pbf is withdrawing that, it means that they can't back up their claims. How many times do i have to say that the fight will move on. Do you think pac is backing up from a 40m payday? As a hater you fucking wish. That's because you label pac as a coward when your balls is'nt even the half of pac's balls. All of you fucking internet warriors are only brave when you're in front of your pc's. Can't be half the man pac is. Now that's a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kamao View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post


    The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

    He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

    The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.

    The way I see it, Mayweather is afraid to fight. Why only now the issue had been raised on this blood test thing? Past DLH, Hatton, Cotto and nobody asked then for this shit test thing. As the saying goes: "If one man wants to do a task, he will do it without hesitation otherwise, he will complain, go into lots of talking and make excuses".

    Mind everybody here, Team Pacquiao is not against on this blood test thing, they want to have the test but with some other third party agency. In addition, why USADA? both are professional fighters recognized not only in the USA but to the whole of Planet Earth. Correct me if I'm wrong but USADA is doing testing only for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic Athletes. (Do you think the Major League Baseball will agree to have their testing with a collegiate baseball agency specializing in high school and college baseball leagues oh common, have some common sense). INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
    waste of a first post.... fact
    Hey. don't let your small brain eat you. Everything here is merely an opinion and everything are accompanied by big IF's and What If's. If you say "Waste of a First Post" others and that includes myself will also say that yours are also a waste and a F?cking no-sense. Learn how to look into different perspectives so you will be re-educated.

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