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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Are you sure about that??
You might be right, once he's clean. ;D
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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Are you sure about that??
You might be right, once he's clean. ;D
More or less, that sums up pretty well what I think too. PAcman last opponents and fashion to blow them are more impressive (for the moment) than what Mayweather did accomplish in the past few fights and let'S include the fact that Mayweather has been 1 1/2 year off doing nothing in the meantime.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHNo, I don't think he does. I would argue that Pacquiao's last three victories (Hatton, Cotto, Clottey [assuming he beats Clottey without controversy]) are more impressive than Marquez (the blown-up version Mayweather fought) and Mosley. Pacquiao dominated Hatton and Cotto and if he does the same to Clottey I don't think there is anyway I could argue that Mayweather deserves to be above him on a P4P list. That being said, I do think Mayweather is a better fighter, but his recent resume is lacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleSo if Floyd dominates Shane he doesnt deserve to be P4P #1?Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Mosley can't be P4P no.1 even if he beats Floyd. Only two fights ago he was outboxed by Cotto. Look what the naturally much smaller Pac did to Cotto. And Pac has already looked more impressive beating Floyds opponents.
Exactly what Mark said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
I just wish we could've seen these two fight prime for prime at 135 pounds. One of the most intriguing fights ever for me
As much as I think Floyd is already a better fighter than Manny, he doesn't not deserve to surplant Manny on the p4p pole unless he has an amazing victory over Mosley, or Shane over him, and that Manny doesn't have a decisive win over Clottey. I think as long as Manny firmly beats Clottey he will remain p4p#1, he doesn't deserve to have it taken away from him unless he loses or wins a controversial fight.
They (Oscar\GBP\Ring) could uproot Manny in an attempt to bruise his ego enough to lure him into the ring with Mayweather. Judging by his reaction to the juicing accusations, etc... i think the opposite just might happen, though...:-\
Yes. I agree. Manny only took Floyd's spot, because of inactivity. Now Floyds back and beating Mosely will be a huge conquest. I say Floyd is P4P if he pulls this off.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Actually, in the event that Floyd and Pac both win their fights, I'm in favor of vacating the #1 p4p spot until these two fools fight each other.
It should since the so callled no 1 has ducked both guys.
I'm thinking of the same thing. Maybe this will be an added motivation for them to fight each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Scenario 1: If Pacman wins via KO, SD or UD vs Clottey
If Mosley wins via KO, UD or SD -- he will be number 1
If Floyd wins via SD or UD -- he will stay at number 2
If Floyd wins via KO (which is very unlikely) -- he will be number 1
Scenario 2: If Pacman losses via KO, SD or UD vs Clottey
If Mosley wins via KO, UD or SD -- he will be number 1
If Floyd wins via SD or UD -- he will be number 1
If Floyd wins via KO (which is very unlikely) -- he will be number 1
No matter what happens to pacman, if Mosley wins vs Floyd, that will mean he beat 2 top active welter fighters that Pacman never fought. That is enough to put Mosley on Number 1 I guess.
I believe that if Floyd wins in convincing fashion then yes he is p4p #1. People discount Floyd's recent body of work but I don't see how you can. IF he beats Shane than thats SHANE, JMM, HATTON last three wins. Consider PAC's if he beats Clotty. Then thats Clotty, Cotto, and Hatton. I don't see a big difference in quality of opponant. People discount Floyd's win over JMM but the same guy gave PAC fits in the first fight (ended in a Draw) and was robbed (I believe) in the second fight in a close decision just 2 years ago. People are rating Clotty higher but really who has he fought? He lost a close decision to Cotto and beat Zab Judah.
IMO if Floyd beats Shane convincingly than yes he is P4P champ hands down.
You mean mayorga the gym-rat?Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleI tcan see how you would think that Pac was still more deserving than PBF, but im not sure how u can then say Shane would be more deserving than Pac. I mean here is a man who went 12 hard rounds with Mayorga 2 fights ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHNo, I don't think he does. I would argue that Pacquiao's last three victories (Hatton, Cotto, Clottey [assuming he beats Clottey without controversy]) are more impressive than Marquez (the blown-up version Mayweather fought) and Mosley. Pacquiao dominated Hatton and Cotto and if he does the same to Clottey I don't think there is anyway I could argue that Mayweather deserves to be above him on a P4P list. That being said, I do think Mayweather is a better fighter, but his recent resume is lacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle