Re: WTF is up Dan Rafael's ass?
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CountryBoy
Mayweather was forced into fighting Mosley...Mayweather will get stopped May 1st....Just watch. :cool:
...I wouldn't cry if that happened
After a loss PBF would either #1 Retire immediately or soon there after or #2 Fight anyone and everyone regardless of the consequences
Re: WTF is up Dan Rafael's ass?
Yeah, I don't even acknowledge Rafael anymore. He clearly speaks from his heart. And he definitely belittles PBF more than what is warranted. Mayweather has given critics enough fuel but Rafael is one of the writers who will find a way to belittle Mayweather in every situation.
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I've honestly been surprised by how poor the coverage on this Pac-Mayweather fight is all across the board and I don't think many are shooting straight in regards to it, Rafael and Hauser included. Even Al Bernstein, whom I think is as on-point as there is, seems to have a jaded view of the whole situation in my opinion.
I wouldn't say that boxing journalism is being soiled by these guys though. My favorite writer of all time is Jack Fiske, and he had as much personal opinion in his articles as anyone else (his final column was him lamenting about many things including fighters who wear the same color trunks and fighters with tattoos ;D) today and I actually don't mind that from established writers who have been pre-screened to actually deserve the shout-space. What I don't like is all the crazy ass internet reporters and boxing industry rejects like Michael Marley who do nothing but stir the pot, thus getting internet boards like this exploding with topics on their drivel. That's what sad but I'm not sure how much the quality has dropped so much the quantity. The internet gives people a venue other then calling in to an AM radio station.
Rafael really didn't follow boxing until his 20's? That's odd.
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CountryBoy
Mayweather was forced into fighting Mosley...Mayweather will get stopped May 1st....Just watch. :cool:
So what you're saying is that a higher power caused an earthquake in haiti just to force Berto to pull out and manipulate Floyd to fight Mosley? :o
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CountryBoy
Mayweather was forced into fighting Mosley...Mayweather will get stopped May 1st....Just watch. :cool:
I feel a bet of somekind coming on. Do you fancy a sig bet?? I'll have PBF you Mosley :D
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I honestly don't think people would give very much credit to Mayweather based on the chronological oppertunities he would have had to face Mosley up until Shane beat Margarito. I mean he lost to Cotto in his biggest WW fight in recent years up until that point so the arguement would be why wouldn't Mayweather face Cotto, but not only was Floyd expecting to face Oscar again, but he fought Hatton like a month after the Mosley-Cotto fight and subsequently retired. I honestly don't think he would have had that much trouble with Miguel and that he wasn't run out of the division. Then Margarito beat Cotto(the first thing that made margarito a marginally valid opponent for Floyd), but he was still retired and once again there would have been a million excuses for why Floyd beat Tony as easy as he would have. Then Shane, thankfully, beat the crap out of TOny and I honestly think he and Pacquiao have made themselves out to be true threats on paper to Mayweather. I think they are the type of fighters people think can truly test Floyd, but there wasn't anyone truly like that when Mayweather was orginally at WW.
Also for somebody who was gone for 16 or 18 months between Hatton and JMM, I don't think 1-2 inches in height and 4 pounds in weight really signify a large difference in "Size". Honestly it was Mayweather's speed and skill that made him so dominant over a guy who's style matched up very poorly with Floyd's. But Mayweather still pissed me off by not trying to make weight.
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OumaFan
I've been annoyed with Rafael ever since he commented on the JMM-Chris John fight like he had seen it when he clearly hadn't. Very unprofessional.
I remember that it was total nonsense. JMM did not deserve those points taken away, and even with those point deductions. I still had JMM winning, but then again it was JMM's own fault turning down the Manny Pacquiao rematch. And instead fighting Chris John for peanuts.
And getting nothing to show for it, how history could of been so different. If JMM would of took the rematch, he probably would of won because Manny Pacquiao was still one dimensional at that point.
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It's getting really tiring reading him bashing Mayweather so much. He acts like Mayweather has never faced a valid challenge before. IMO Oscar has been better than Mosley since Mosley's first loss. I think Mosley's physical attributes might make him a bigger challenge for Mayweather, but Oscar outboxed him pretty clearly in their second fight. At welterweight Mayweather faced Baldomir when he was the number 1 welterweight and linear champion, he faced Judah right after his fall from that position, but they were clearly the two most highly regarded WW's at the time.
I can't say Mayweather hasn't hand picked his opponents, but its on a financial basis that he picks his opponent. A guy has to be good, but also a draw for Mayweather to find reason in fighting him. Sure it might not be the most honorable method of finding opponents, but it's really worked for him and it wasn't him that backed out of the Pacquiao fight. He didn't shy away from Baldomir when people thought that would be really challenging, or when he faced Castillo immediately after his toughest test as a pro. I don't believe there is anyone within reason Floyd wouldn't fight if the money was right, and when it comes down to it, he along with Manny are putting boxing on a different level media wise. And I hate that Dan Rafael thinks he should be able to hate on the guy who is as responsible for boxing's resurgence as anyone else.
Do you want the resume or just currently?
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amat
I've honestly been surprised by how poor the coverage on this Pac-Mayweather fight is all across the board and I don't think many are shooting straight in regards to it, Rafael and Hauser included. Even Al Bernstein, whom I think is as on-point as there is, seems to have a jaded view of the whole situation in my opinion.
I wouldn't say that boxing journalism is being soiled by these guys though. My favorite writer of all time is Jack Fiske, and he had as much personal opinion in his articles as anyone else (his final column was him lamenting about many things including fighters who wear the same color trunks and fighters with tattoos ;D) today and I actually don't mind that from established writers who have been pre-screened to actually deserve the shout-space. What I don't like is all the crazy ass internet reporters and boxing industry rejects like Michael Marley who do nothing but stir the pot, thus getting internet boards like this exploding with topics on their drivel. That's what sad but I'm not sure how much the quality has dropped so much the quantity. The internet gives people a venue other then calling in to an AM radio station.
Rafael really didn't follow boxing until his 20's? That's odd.
Not that odd according to this site.
I think CFH has only been a fan a couple of years (since Oscar-Floyd or something?). Bilbo came to this site claiming fighters under 160lb weren't worth watching. A good few Brits started watching with Hatton-Kostya
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amat
I've honestly been surprised by how poor the coverage on this Pac-Mayweather fight is all across the board and I don't think many are shooting straight in regards to it, Rafael and Hauser included. Even Al Bernstein, whom I think is as on-point as there is, seems to have a jaded view of the whole situation in my opinion.
I wouldn't say that boxing journalism is being soiled by these guys though. My favorite writer of all time is Jack Fiske, and he had as much personal opinion in his articles as anyone else (his final column was him lamenting about many things including fighters who wear the same color trunks and fighters with tattoos ;D) today and I actually don't mind that from established writers who have been pre-screened to actually deserve the shout-space. What I don't like is all the crazy ass internet reporters and boxing industry rejects like Michael Marley who do nothing but stir the pot, thus getting internet boards like this exploding with topics on their drivel. That's what sad but I'm not sure how much the quality has dropped so much the quantity. The internet gives people a venue other then calling in to an AM radio station.
Rafael really didn't follow boxing until his 20's? That's odd.
Not that odd according to this site.
I think CFH has only been a fan a couple of years (since Oscar-Floyd or something?). Bilbo came to this site claiming fighters under 160lb weren't worth watching. A good few Brits started watching with Hatton-Kostya
No of course not people pick up stuff at different times, but for someone who has a definite perceived arrogance about him and speaks on many things as the authority, it is a bit odd.
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amat
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Fenster
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amat
I've honestly been surprised by how poor the coverage on this Pac-Mayweather fight is all across the board and I don't think many are shooting straight in regards to it, Rafael and Hauser included. Even Al Bernstein, whom I think is as on-point as there is, seems to have a jaded view of the whole situation in my opinion.
I wouldn't say that boxing journalism is being soiled by these guys though. My favorite writer of all time is Jack Fiske, and he had as much personal opinion in his articles as anyone else (his final column was him lamenting about many things including fighters who wear the same color trunks and fighters with tattoos ;D) today and I actually don't mind that from established writers who have been pre-screened to actually deserve the shout-space. What I don't like is all the crazy ass internet reporters and boxing industry rejects like Michael Marley who do nothing but stir the pot, thus getting internet boards like this exploding with topics on their drivel. That's what sad but I'm not sure how much the quality has dropped so much the quantity. The internet gives people a venue other then calling in to an AM radio station.
Rafael really didn't follow boxing until his 20's? That's odd.
Not that odd according to this site.
I think CFH has only been a fan a couple of years (since Oscar-Floyd or something?). Bilbo came to this site claiming fighters under 160lb weren't worth watching. A good few Brits started watching with Hatton-Kostya
No of course not people pick up stuff at different times, but for someone who has a definite perceived arrogance about him and speaks on many things as the authority, it is a bit odd.
You talking about Bilbo or fat Dan?
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Rafael is fat, woman-less, and spends his whole life behind a pc watching boxing, porn or both at the same time. Can't blame the guy for coming off as a prick from time to time. He's like the rest after picking floyd to loose time and time again he could care less who beats him. He just wants to be alive to see someone do it. Remember this is the guy who thought joel julio was the next best thing....each entitled to thier own i guess.
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amat
I've honestly been surprised by how poor the coverage on this Pac-Mayweather fight is all across the board and I don't think many are shooting straight in regards to it, Rafael and Hauser included. Even Al Bernstein, whom I think is as on-point as there is, seems to have a jaded view of the whole situation in my opinion.
I wouldn't say that boxing journalism is being soiled by these guys though. My favorite writer of all time is Jack Fiske, and he had as much personal opinion in his articles as anyone else (his final column was him lamenting about many things including fighters who wear the same color trunks and fighters with tattoos ;D) today and I actually don't mind that from established writers who have been pre-screened to actually deserve the shout-space. What I don't like is all the crazy ass internet reporters and boxing industry rejects like Michael Marley who do nothing but stir the pot, thus getting internet boards like this exploding with topics on their drivel. That's what sad but I'm not sure how much the quality has dropped so much the quantity. The internet gives people a venue other then calling in to an AM radio station.
Rafael really didn't follow boxing until his 20's? That's odd.
Not that odd according to this site.
I think CFH has only been a fan a couple of years (since Oscar-Floyd or something?). Bilbo came to this site claiming fighters under 160lb weren't worth watching. A good few Brits started watching with Hatton-Kostya
It's true that I'm a relatively recent fan. I started getting into boxing in around 2005. I really liked the Winky - Trinidad fight, that was the fight boxing match that really captured my attention for some reason. That was the first fight that really got me into the sport. I realized it wasn't all about brute strength and concussive knockouts and that there was a true art about the game. To be honest, around the same time I also really enjoyed the Contender show (go ahead, laugh away). Ever since then I've been a pretty hardcore fan, but it's only been 4/5 years for me.
I joined Saddo's in 2006 and basically lurked for a year because I didn't know fuck all about the sport really, I think I probably had like 50 posts in my first year here. Even after that I only really posted sporadically. It took me almost as long to go from 1-1,000 posts than it did to got from 1,000-10,000. I only really started posting on here a lot after my mom died in mid-2007 because it: a) gave me an anonymous venue to talk about what had happened; and b) because it was a place where I could kind of escape what was happening in my life.
And that ends today's segment of "Get to Know a MOD Better" :p
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Fenster
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amat
I've honestly been surprised by how poor the coverage on this Pac-Mayweather fight is all across the board and I don't think many are shooting straight in regards to it, Rafael and Hauser included. Even Al Bernstein, whom I think is as on-point as there is, seems to have a jaded view of the whole situation in my opinion.
I wouldn't say that boxing journalism is being soiled by these guys though. My favorite writer of all time is Jack Fiske, and he had as much personal opinion in his articles as anyone else (his final column was him lamenting about many things including fighters who wear the same color trunks and fighters with tattoos ;D) today and I actually don't mind that from established writers who have been pre-screened to actually deserve the shout-space. What I don't like is all the crazy ass internet reporters and boxing industry rejects like Michael Marley who do nothing but stir the pot, thus getting internet boards like this exploding with topics on their drivel. That's what sad but I'm not sure how much the quality has dropped so much the quantity. The internet gives people a venue other then calling in to an AM radio station.
Rafael really didn't follow boxing until his 20's? That's odd.
Not that odd according to this site.
I think CFH has only been a fan a couple of years (since Oscar-Floyd or something?). Bilbo came to this site claiming fighters under 160lb weren't worth watching. A good few Brits started watching with Hatton-Kostya
It's true that I'm a relatively recent fan. I started getting into boxing in around 2005. I really liked the Winky - Trinidad fight, that was the fight boxing match that really captured my attention for some reason. That was the first fight that really got me into the sport. I realized it wasn't all about brute strength and concussive knockouts and that there was a true art about the game. To be honest, around the same time I also really enjoyed the Contender show (go ahead, laugh away). Ever since then I've been a pretty hardcore fan, but it's only been 4/5 years for me.
I joined Saddo's in 2006 and basically lurked for a year because I didn't know fuck all about the sport really, I think I probably had like 50 posts in my first year here. Even after that I only really posted sporadically. It took me almost as long to go from 1-1,000 posts than it did to got from 1,000-10,000. I only really started posting on here a lot after my mom died in mid-2007 because it: a) gave me an anonymous venue to talk about what had happened; and b) because it was a place where I could kind of escape what was happening in my life.
And that ends today's segment of "Get to Know a MOD Better" :p
Around the time of that Contender show was just about as busy as I can remember it on here. That definitely got boxing fans out of the woodwork.
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