Re: Hopkins vs Jones PPV numbers
Damn, I loved both of these guys, but I'm SICK AND TIRED of them still being in the fight game. The same egos that gave them there drive to be the best are the same egos that are screwing the hell outta them now. I mean I understand that this is there only way to make money really, but damn, when Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins doesn't even get 100,000 buys? That should tell you that NOBODY CARES anymore. Roy Jones got some bad advice on the purse. I think he looked at his fight with Felix (another fight where fans were like "Why?") and thought that if that fight could do 500,000 then this one should at least do 500,000. The problem is that NOBODY wants to see Hopkins fight and RJJ just got knocked out in a round. Plus, just from the feeling I got from my friends, I felt a general disgust that this fight was even taking place. Honestly, I was almost offended that I would have to pay for this fight to watch. I didn't buy it because it wasn't gonna be showcase of two legends, it felt like a heist. If RJJ doesn't get paid at all for his fight, that's a mockery of boxing in general and a disgrace. These old heads are fucking ruining everything.
What's even sadder is that I can see the same happening to Floyd, Shane, Pacquiao, etc...
These guys (especially Floyd) spend money as if this is a career, as if they will be making this type of money for their life like they were a doctor or engineer or something like that. With their entourages, and houses, and cars, and lavish lifestyles, etc...I really hope these guys don't end up like Hopkins and Jones.
Re: Hopkins vs Jones PPV numbers
Roy jones got paid some money trust me. Maybe not the kind of deal he is used to putting together but hes been around to long not to get a dime.
Re: Hopkins vs Jones PPV numbers
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albsur2006
Damn, I loved both of these guys, but I'm SICK AND TIRED of them still being in the fight game. The same egos that gave them there drive to be the best are the same egos that are screwing the hell outta them now. I mean I understand that this is there only way to make money really, but damn, when Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins doesn't even get 100,000 buys? That should tell you that NOBODY CARES anymore. Roy Jones got some bad advice on the purse. I think he looked at his fight with Felix (another fight where fans were like "Why?") and thought that if that fight could do 500,000 then this one should at least do 500,000. The problem is that NOBODY wants to see Hopkins fight and RJJ just got knocked out in a round. Plus, just from the feeling I got from my friends, I felt a general disgust that this fight was even taking place. Honestly, I was almost offended that I would have to pay for this fight to watch. I didn't buy it because it wasn't gonna be showcase of two legends, it felt like a heist. If RJJ doesn't get paid at all for his fight, that's a mockery of boxing in general and a disgrace. These old heads are fucking ruining everything.
What's even sadder is that I can see the same happening to Floyd, Shane, Pacquiao, etc...
These guys (especially Floyd) spend money as if this is a career, as if they will be making this type of money for their life like they were a doctor or engineer or something like that. With their entourages, and houses, and cars, and lavish lifestyles, etc...I really hope these guys don't end up like Hopkins and Jones.
shit i wish i'd end up with half the money that Hopkins and Jones have, their far from being broke, their just greedy as fuck both can live the rest of their lives without working another day in their lives
Re: Hopkins vs Jones PPV numbers
[QUOTE=albsur2006;858698]Damn, I loved both of these guys, but I'm SICK AND TIRED of them still being in the fight game. The same egos that gave them there drive to be the best are the same egos that are screwing the hell outta them now. I mean I understand that this is there only way to make money really, but damn, when Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins doesn't even get 100,000 buys? That should tell you that NOBODY CARES anymore. Roy Jones got some bad advice on the purse. I think he looked at his fight with Felix (another fight where fans were like "Why?") and thought that if that fight could do 500,000 then this one should at least do 500,000. The problem is that NOBODY wants to see Hopkins fight and RJJ just got knocked out in a round. Plus, just from the feeling I got from my friends, I felt a general disgust that this fight was even taking place. Honestly, I was almost offended that I would have to pay for this fight to watch. I didn't buy it because it wasn't gonna be showcase of two legends, it felt like a heist. If RJJ doesn't get paid at all for his fight, that's a mockery of boxing in general and a disgrace. These old heads are fucking ruining everything.
What's even sadder is that I can see the same happening to Floyd, Shane, Pacquiao, etc...
These guys (especially Floyd) spend money as if this is a career, as if they will be making this type of money for their life like they were a doctor or engineer or something like that. With their entourages, and houses, and cars, and lavish lifestyles, etc...I really hope these guys don't end up like Hopkins and Jones.[/Q
Doctors and engineers don't make the kind of money Jones and mayweather made.........
Re: Hopkins vs Jones PPV numbers
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Hunter
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albsur2006
Damn, I loved both of these guys, but I'm SICK AND TIRED of them still being in the fight game. The same egos that gave them there drive to be the best are the same egos that are screwing the hell outta them now. I mean I understand that this is there only way to make money really, but damn, when Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins doesn't even get 100,000 buys? That should tell you that NOBODY CARES anymore. Roy Jones got some bad advice on the purse. I think he looked at his fight with Felix (another fight where fans were like "Why?") and thought that if that fight could do 500,000 then this one should at least do 500,000. The problem is that NOBODY wants to see Hopkins fight and RJJ just got knocked out in a round. Plus, just from the feeling I got from my friends, I felt a general disgust that this fight was even taking place. Honestly, I was almost offended that I would have to pay for this fight to watch. I didn't buy it because it wasn't gonna be showcase of two legends, it felt like a heist. If RJJ doesn't get paid at all for his fight, that's a mockery of boxing in general and a disgrace. These old heads are fucking ruining everything.
What's even sadder is that I can see the same happening to Floyd, Shane, Pacquiao, etc...
These guys (especially Floyd) spend money as if this is a career, as if they will be making this type of money for their life like they were a doctor or engineer or something like that. With their entourages, and houses, and cars, and lavish lifestyles, etc...I really hope these guys don't end up like Hopkins and Jones.
Doctors and engineers don't make the kind of money Jones and mayweather made.........
Doctors and engineers also don't SPEND the kind of money Jones and Mayweather made................
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killersheep
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Originally Posted by
Hunter
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Originally Posted by
albsur2006
Damn, I loved both of these guys, but I'm SICK AND TIRED of them still being in the fight game. The same egos that gave them there drive to be the best are the same egos that are screwing the hell outta them now. I mean I understand that this is there only way to make money really, but damn, when Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins doesn't even get 100,000 buys? That should tell you that NOBODY CARES anymore. Roy Jones got some bad advice on the purse. I think he looked at his fight with Felix (another fight where fans were like "Why?") and thought that if that fight could do 500,000 then this one should at least do 500,000. The problem is that NOBODY wants to see Hopkins fight and RJJ just got knocked out in a round. Plus, just from the feeling I got from my friends, I felt a general disgust that this fight was even taking place. Honestly, I was almost offended that I would have to pay for this fight to watch. I didn't buy it because it wasn't gonna be showcase of two legends, it felt like a heist. If RJJ doesn't get paid at all for his fight, that's a mockery of boxing in general and a disgrace. These old heads are fucking ruining everything.
What's even sadder is that I can see the same happening to Floyd, Shane, Pacquiao, etc...
These guys (especially Floyd) spend money as if this is a career, as if they will be making this type of money for their life like they were a doctor or engineer or something like that. With their entourages, and houses, and cars, and lavish lifestyles, etc...I really hope these guys don't end up like Hopkins and Jones.
Doctors and engineers don't make the kind of money Jones and mayweather made.........
Doctors and engineers also don't SPEND the kind of money Jones and Mayweather made................
and doctors and engineers do not have the extremly limited window of opportunity where they can make that money. They ussually can make it for the rest of their lives.
Re: Hopkins vs Jones PPV numbers
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Originally Posted by
albsur2006
Damn, I loved both of these guys, but I'm SICK AND TIRED of them still being in the fight game. The same egos that gave them there drive to be the best are the same egos that are screwing the hell outta them now. I mean I understand that this is there only way to make money really, but damn, when Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins doesn't even get 100,000 buys? That should tell you that NOBODY CARES anymore. Roy Jones got some bad advice on the purse. I think he looked at his fight with Felix (another fight where fans were like "Why?") and thought that if that fight could do 500,000 then this one should at least do 500,000. The problem is that NOBODY wants to see Hopkins fight and RJJ just got knocked out in a round. Plus, just from the feeling I got from my friends, I felt a general disgust that this fight was even taking place. Honestly, I was almost offended that I would have to pay for this fight to watch. I didn't buy it because it wasn't gonna be showcase of two legends, it felt like a heist. If RJJ doesn't get paid at all for his fight, that's a mockery of boxing in general and a disgrace. These old heads are fucking ruining everything.
What's even sadder is that I can see the same happening to Floyd, Shane, Pacquiao, etc...
These guys (especially Floyd) spend money as if this is a career, as if they will be making this type of money for their life like they were a doctor or engineer or something like that. With their entourages, and houses, and cars, and lavish lifestyles, etc...I really hope these guys don't end up like Hopkins and Jones.
TBH I don't think FLoyd, Shane, and Pacquiao is going to be broke once their careers are over. Shane owns a minority interest in GBP and gets a small fee or whatever for helping to promote the fights also, Floyd had IRS troubles recently but I dont' think the guy is stupid enough to be in that situation again, he can still make more money in future bouts also. Pacquiao is the richest athlete in his country's history, plus factor in the rate of exchange and the extremely cheap cost of living in the philipines compared to western countries, and he isn't going to be broke in this lifetime, unless he moves to the US and decides to live that kind of lifestyle.
RJJ on the other hand from what I read could be in serious financial trouble, Hopkins on the other hand is frugal with his money and also owns a small part of GBP. He should be fine.
Re: Hopkins vs Jones PPV numbers
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Lance Uppercut
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killersheep
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Hunter
Doctors and engineers don't make the kind of money Jones and mayweather made.........
Doctors and engineers also don't SPEND the kind of money Jones and Mayweather made................
and doctors and engineers do not have the extremly limited window of opportunity where they can make that money. They ussually can make it for the rest of their lives.
Just because the amount of time they are able to make money is shorter doesn't mean they shouldn't save a nest egg. It's common sense.
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killersheep
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Lance Uppercut
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killersheep
Doctors and engineers also don't SPEND the kind of money Jones and Mayweather made................
and doctors and engineers do not have the extremly limited window of opportunity where they can make that money. They ussually can make it for the rest of their lives.
Just because the amount of time they are able to make money is shorter doesn't mean they shouldn't save a nest egg. It's common sense.
Boxing and common sense are frequently mutually exclusive concepts.
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CFH
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killersheep
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Lance Uppercut
and doctors and engineers do not have the extremly limited window of opportunity where they can make that money. They ussually can make it for the rest of their lives.
Just because the amount of time they are able to make money is shorter doesn't mean they shouldn't save a nest egg. It's common sense.
Boxing and common sense are frequently mutually exclusive concepts.
I blame video games
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killersheep
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Originally Posted by
CFH
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killersheep
Just because the amount of time they are able to make money is shorter doesn't mean they shouldn't save a nest egg. It's common sense.
Boxing and common sense are frequently mutually exclusive concepts.
I blame video games
I blame Manny Pacquiao and that goddamn subversive rock and roll music.
Re: Hopkins vs Jones PPV numbers
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I'm surprised that a hundred-thousand people were dumb enough to actually pay for that abortion of a fight.
First thing I thought, man. Thats the first hint that boxing will never die. When you can sell 100,000 PPV buys of that TURKEY, then you know boxing has some LOYAL fans.
IT absolutely boggles my mind how someone who isn't filthy rich would decide to throw money away on this turkey. Absolutely terrible fight. Going into the fight, fans knew...
1) It had absolutely NO relevance.
2) It was likely to be boring, given the style of both guys and the fact that their first fight was one of the most boring fights you'll ever see
They should be thankful for 100,000 buys IMO.
Re: Hopkins vs Jones PPV numbers
A lot of boxers go broke for the same reason a lot of boxers get fat: trying to live the same lifestyle after boxing. Its human nature man, people hate change. Its hard to maintain a certain standard of living and then voluntarily decrease it to reflect your income.
