I am going to put my card up but Froch won the last 2 rounds for me, I can't give Kessler the 12th for the last 20 second flurry prior to that Froch was winning the round clearly.
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I am going to put my card up but Froch won the last 2 rounds for me, I can't give Kessler the 12th for the last 20 second flurry prior to that Froch was winning the round clearly.
after a re-watching it:
1. Even
2. Kessler
3. Froch
4. Froch
5. Froch
6. Kessler
7. Kessler
8. Kessler
9. Froch
10. Even
11. Kessler
12. Even
... Froch did not win this fight nor did he win his fight before this. He is overrated.
Why are people complaining about the scoring, I had it 116-112 and that's withing one point from 2 of the 3 judges scoring as the fight went on and before any replays in between rounds, remember these judges don't get to re watch the fight in slow motion before they mark their score cards.
do they see replays on the big screen at the arena's in between rounds ??
116-111 why we are even arguing about this is ridiculous Froch won the fight at a canter and in mine and every legitimate boxing fans eyes is 27-0 with 20 kos.
If he loses his status as the worlds number 1 supermiddleweight then an even bigger tragedy than saturday evening has occured.
He never was number 1 mate. Rightly or wrongly Bute is number 1 which is a joke with his resume.Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHomo
Not really overall he has the best resume, except for maybe Mikkel Kessler. But at that time he had just lost to Andre Ward in one sided fashion.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983He never was number 1 mate. Rightly or wrongly Bute is number 1 which is a joke with his resume.Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHomo
Hown exactly? His best win is against an average fighter who Kessler beat up 4 years ago, Bute has no big names on his resume, Ward is number one he beat the previous number one Kessler Bute has beat decent contenders that is all. He is not number one imo. He is now number three for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBNot really overall he has the best resume, except for maybe Mikkel Kessler. But at that time he had just lost to Andre Ward in one sided fashion.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983He never was number 1 mate. Rightly or wrongly Bute is number 1 which is a joke with his resume.Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHomo
Andre Ward has one big win and thats it, outside of that who has he beaten ? Edison Miranda over 12 rounds ? who Lucian Bute destroyed in 3 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Hown exactly? His best win is against an average fighter who Kessler beat up 4 years ago, Bute has no big names on his resume, Ward is number one he beat the previous number one Kessler Bute has beat decent contenders that is all. He is not number one imo. He is now number three for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBNot really overall he has the best resume, except for maybe Mikkel Kessler. But at that time he had just lost to Andre Ward in one sided fashion.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Compare the records.
Lucian Bute
Kabary Salem
Fulgencio Zuniga
Librado Andrade x2
Edison Miranda
Sakio Bika
William Joppy
Lolenga Mock
Alejandro Berrio
Are all solid fighters, you also have to take into account. The way he's destroyed the opposition, fighters like Fulgencio Zuniga, Kabary Salem, Librado Andrade. Had rock solid chins and had never been stopped.
He's also been a world champion since 2007.
Mate Kessler was number 1 before the Ward fight Ward beat him up he is now number 1 in my eyes that win over Kessler is way better than anything Bute has done like I said Bute's best win was against a guy who was ranked 7/8 and who Kessler totally schooled 4 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBAndre Ward has one big win and thats it, outside of that who has he beaten ? Edison Miranda over 12 rounds ? who Lucian Bute destroyed in 3 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Hown exactly? His best win is against an average fighter who Kessler beat up 4 years ago, Bute has no big names on his resume, Ward is number one he beat the previous number one Kessler Bute has beat decent contenders that is all. He is not number one imo. He is now number three for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Compare the records.
Lucian Bute
Kabary Salem
Fulgencio Zuniga
Librado Andrade x2
Edison Miranda
Sakio Bika
William Joppy
Lolenga Mock
Alejandro Berrio
Are all solid fighters, you also have to take into account. The way he's destroyed the opposition, fighters like Fulgencio Zuniga, Kabary Salem, Librado Andrade. Had rock solid chins and had never been stopped.
He's also been a world champion since 2007.
Kessler just beat Froch as well so that adds to Ward's credentials imo, Froch has a better resume than Bute as well, all them names you have put up are average contenders in reality.
1. Ward
2. Kessler
3. Bute
4. Froch
5. Dirrell
That is my top 5.