Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
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Originally Posted by
gest12645
exactly , . Floyd was stunned by Mosley , and Pac is a fast starter , so he can catch Floyd early and change the whole fight. And I'll be the first one to say it
Pacman wins almost every round against Mosley .
Yeah, Pac would have eaten this version of Mosley for breakfast. Too old and hesitant by far. I actually think Pac is more than ready for Mayweather, the question is "is Mayweather ready for Pac?". I just can't see Mayweather winning enough rounds, he will need to KO Pac to guarantee the win and nobody has been hurting Pac recently. I don't care about facial bruising, nobody has been really hurting Manny. Sure, his output will be reduced, but no way you will see him throwing 30 punches a round like Mosley. Mayweather likes to wait and Manny is quick enough and active enough to make Mayweather pay.
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
honestly , i think it'd be a close fight, but I'd still go with Mayweather. He's too big and skilled. but I wouldnt be money on this one . I've bet large amounts of cash on all of Mayweathers recent fights (on PBF) but this one is too close to call.
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
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Originally Posted by
gest12645
honestly , i think it'd be a close fight, but I'd still go with Mayweather. He's too big and skilled. but I wouldnt be money on this one . I've bet large amounts of cash on all of Mayweathers recent fights (on PBF) but this one is too close to call.
It's a tough one. I can see it going both ways, but both fighters have this uncanny knack of surprising you. I think too many are dismissing Manny on the back of the Mosley fight though. He will be a lot better than what Mosley was. Mosley always had a few question marks about him with the layoff and age.
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
Well for sure these will be the excuses when 1 of them loses.
For Manny's supporters: Too small and jumping up too much in weight
For Floyd's supporters: Too old and ring rust
I'm sure these will be the excuses.
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
Even if Pac is not ready the fight has to happen right away.
If Floyd dominates Manny then so be it but this should not take another year or so.
If Manny looks good againts tailor made opponents, How about Floyd?
A 36 yr old career featherweight and a 40 yr old 1 and a half year off from his last fight veteran. :o That is less impressive than Cotto and Clottey IMO.
I agree Floyd must be favored here but PAC is more dangerous when he is the underdog.
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
gest12645
honestly , i think it'd be a close fight, but I'd still go with Mayweather. He's too big and skilled. but I wouldnt be money on this one . I've bet large amounts of cash on all of Mayweathers recent fights (on PBF) but this one is too close to call.
It's a tough one. I can see it going both ways, but both fighters have this uncanny knack of surprising you. I think too many are dismissing Manny on the back of the Mosley fight though. He will be a lot better than what Mosley was. Mosley always had a few question marks about him with the layoff and age.
Thats true, ppl have been on Floyd on the front and on the back after the Mosley fight.
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
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Originally Posted by
miron_lang
Even if Pac is not ready the fight has to happen right away.
If Floyd dominates Manny then so be it but this should not take another year or so.
If Manny looks good againts tailor made opponents, How about Floyd?
A 36 yr old career featherweight and a 40 yr old 1 and a half year off from his last fight veteran. :o That is less impressive than Cotto and Clottey IMO.
I agree Floyd must be favored here but PAC is more dangerous when he is the underdog.
and this marks the return of the Pachuggers :rolleyes:
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
miron_lang
Even if Pac is not ready the fight has to happen right away.
If Floyd dominates Manny then so be it but this should not take another year or so.
If Manny looks good againts tailor made opponents, How about Floyd?
A 36 yr old career featherweight and a 40 yr old 1 and a half year off from his last fight veteran. :o That is less impressive than Cotto and Clottey IMO.
I agree Floyd must be favored here but PAC is more dangerous when he is the underdog.
and this marks the return of the Pachuggers :rolleyes:
Pachugger or not, the statement is true...
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
if this fight gets made, there will be no excuses........no one can say anything about the winner...they cant say o the opponent was.......nothing like that can be said, both guys are dominant, the fight is nothign but fair.....legendary
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
miron_lang
Even if Pac is not ready the fight has to happen right away.
If Floyd dominates Manny then so be it but this should not take another year or so.
If Manny looks good againts tailor made opponents, How about Floyd?
A 36 yr old career featherweight and a 40 yr old 1 and a half year off from his last fight veteran. :o That is less impressive than Cotto and Clottey IMO.
I agree Floyd must be favored here but PAC is more dangerous when he is the underdog.
and this marks the return of the Pachuggers :rolleyes:
:( WTF?????
A 36 yr old career featherweight and a 40 yr old 1 and a half year off from his last fight veteran. :o That is less impressive than Cotto and Clottey IMO.
can you tell me what is fabricated in that sentence? That's a valid argument and all you can say is
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and this marks the return of the Pachuggers
refute it post some sense please or dont post at all. and stick to this topic.
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
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Originally Posted by
miron_lang
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
miron_lang
Even if Pac is not ready the fight has to happen right away.
If Floyd dominates Manny then so be it but this should not take another year or so.
If Manny looks good againts tailor made opponents, How about Floyd?
A 36 yr old career featherweight and a 40 yr old 1 and a half year off from his last fight veteran. :o That is less impressive than Cotto and Clottey IMO.
I agree Floyd must be favored here but PAC is more dangerous when he is the underdog.
and this marks the return of the Pachuggers :rolleyes:
:( WTF?????
A 36 yr old career featherweight and a 40 yr old 1 and a half year off from his last fight veteran. :o That is less impressive than Cotto and Clottey IMO.
can you tell me what is fabricated in that sentence? That's a valid argument and all you can say is
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and this marks the return of the Pachuggers
refute it post some sense please or dont post at all. and stick to this topic.
Mosley was 38, not 40 and he hasn't had a fight in 15 1/2 months not 18 months. There I just refuted it, now what do I get?;D
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
miron_lang
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
and this marks the return of the Pachuggers :rolleyes:
:( WTF?????
A 36 yr old career featherweight and a 40 yr old 1 and a half year off from his last fight veteran. :o That is less impressive than Cotto and Clottey IMO.
can you tell me what is fabricated in that sentence? That's a valid argument and all you can say is
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and this marks the return of the Pachuggers
refute it post some sense please or dont post at all. and stick to this topic.
Mosley was 38, not 40 and he hasn't had a fight in 15 1/2 months not 18 months. There I just refuted it, now what do I get?;D
Yeah my data is wrong Mosley is 38 yrs and 8 months old. and im also short by 2 and 1/2 months on the inactivity. The hater elteerrible have something on that sentence now :(
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
I hope this fight happens as does every1 else lol. What makes this fight great you can ask 5 people and every1 has a different veiw of how Pac/Floyd will win.
I'am picking Floyd to stop Pac .He will me moving all night and picking Pac apart when he comes in which wont allow to get his combination off.
Pac will be very dangerous early though as Floyd struggles early but for this fight i see him been at the top of his game cause if Pac tags him he will stop him.
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
I decided to watch a bit of Cotto vs Pac yesterday and i noticed that Pac was over reaching a lot with his punches i think Mayweather would counter punch his head off all night also when Cotto was on back foot Pac struggled to close him down.
Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
Well for sure these will be the excuses when 1 of them loses.
For Manny's supporters: Too small and jumping up too much in weight
For Floyd's supporters: Too old and ring rust
I'm sure these will be the excuses.
No one has ever had to make excuses for Floyd yet.
if he gets beat, he gets beat. No excuses needed.
it's the others who always need excuses against Floyd.
But if Mayweather and Pac get in the ring together within the next year, neither of them should look for any excuses. One of them will lose, because the other will win. Pure and simple.
Of course, if Manny loses to Floyd, Miles will surely be looking for some kind of excuse. But most of the boxing world will simply recognize that Floyd's a better boxer.
i don't know who will win that fight; I haven't seen Manny in the ring nearly as much as i've seen Floyd, so I don't have a feel for him. I hope he brings Floyd his greatest challenge yet, because if he does, we'll see an incredible fight. we don't know how good Floyd can be. The better his opponent, the closer we come to finding that out.
If Manny brings out the very best in Floyd and still beats him ... well, then, that will be amazing and should qualify for one of the fights of the decade, if not the fight.
That's the kind of fight I want to see Floyd lose - where he was pressed to fight his best - which will be dazzling - and still unable to produce a victory.
Ring rust? Floyd? Is that why he did such a mediocre job against Mosely?
