Pac's not ready for Floyd....

[gest12645]

exactly , . Floyd was stunned by Mosley , and Pac is a fast starter , so he can catch Floyd early and change the whole fight. And I'll be the first one to say it

Pacman wins almost every round against Mosley .

[Gandalf]

exactly , . Floyd was stunned by Mosley , and Pac is a fast starter , so he can catch Floyd early and change the whole fight. And I'll be the first one to say it

Pacman wins almost every round against Mosley .

Yeah, Pac would have eaten this version of Mosley for breakfast. Too old and hesitant by far. I actually think Pac is more than ready for Mayweather, the question is "is Mayweather ready for Pac?". I just can't see Mayweather winning enough rounds, he will need to KO Pac to guarantee the win and nobody has been hurting Pac recently. I don't care about facial bruising, nobody has been really hurting Manny. Sure, his output will be reduced, but no way you will see him throwing 30 punches a round like Mosley. Mayweather likes to wait and Manny is quick enough and active enough to make Mayweather pay.

[gest12645]

honestly , i think it'd be a close fight, but I'd still go with Mayweather. He's too big and skilled. but I wouldnt be money on this one . I've bet large amounts of cash on all of Mayweathers recent fights (on PBF) but this one is too close to call.

[Gandalf]

honestly , i think it'd be a close fight, but I'd still go with Mayweather. He's too big and skilled. but I wouldnt be money on this one . I've bet large amounts of cash on all of Mayweathers recent fights (on PBF) but this one is too close to call.

It's a tough one. I can see it going both ways, but both fighters have this uncanny knack of surprising you. I think too many are dismissing Manny on the back of the Mosley fight though. He will be a lot better than what Mosley was. Mosley always had a few question marks about him with the layoff and age.

[generalbulldog]

Well for sure these will be the excuses when 1 of them loses.

For Manny's supporters: Too small and jumping up too much in weight
For Floyd's supporters: Too old and ring rust

I'm sure these will be the excuses.

[miron_lang]

Even if Pac is not ready the fight has to happen right away.

If Floyd dominates Manny then so be it but this should not take another year or so.


If Manny looks good againts tailor made opponents, How about Floyd?

A 36 yr old career featherweight and a 40 yr old 1 and a half year off from his last fight veteran. That is less impressive than Cotto and Clottey IMO.


I agree Floyd must be favored here but PAC is more dangerous when he is the underdog.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Even if Pac is not ready the fight has to happen right away.

If Floyd dominates Manny then so be it but this should not take another year or so.


If Manny looks good againts tailor made opponents, How about Floyd?

A 36 yr old career featherweight and a 40 yr old 1 and a half year off from his last fight veteran. That is less impressive than Cotto and Clottey IMO.


I agree Floyd must be favored here but PAC is more dangerous when he is the underdog.

and this marks the return of the Pachuggers

[NuthaPug]

Well for sure these will be the excuses when 1 of them loses.

For Manny's supporters: Too small and jumping up too much in weight
For Floyd's supporters: Too old and ring rust

I'm sure these will be the excuses.

No one has ever had to make excuses for Floyd yet.

if he gets beat, he gets beat. No excuses needed.

it's the others who always need excuses against Floyd.

But if Mayweather and Pac get in the ring together within the next year, neither of them should look for any excuses. One of them will lose, because the other will win. Pure and simple.

Of course, if Manny loses to Floyd, Miles will surely be looking for some kind of excuse. But most of the boxing world will simply recognize that Floyd's a better boxer.

i don't know who will win that fight; I haven't seen Manny in the ring nearly as much as i've seen Floyd, so I don't have a feel for him. I hope he brings Floyd his greatest challenge yet, because if he does, we'll see an incredible fight. we don't know how good Floyd can be. The better his opponent, the closer we come to finding that out.

If Manny brings out the very best in Floyd and still beats him ... well, then, that will be amazing and should qualify for one of the fights of the decade, if not the fight.

That's the kind of fight I want to see Floyd lose - where he was pressed to fight his best - which will be dazzling - and still unable to produce a victory.

Ring rust? Floyd? Is that why he did such a mediocre job against Mosely?

[Gandalf]

Well for sure these will be the excuses when 1 of them loses.

For Manny's supporters: Too small and jumping up too much in weight
For Floyd's supporters: Too old and ring rust

I'm sure these will be the excuses.

No one has ever had to make excuses for Floyd yet.

if he gets beat, he gets beat. No excuses needed.

it's the others who always need excuses against Floyd.

But if Mayweather and Pac get in the ring together within the next year, neither of them should look for any excuses. One of them will lose, because the other will win. Pure and simple.

Of course, if Manny loses to Floyd, Miles will surely be looking for some kind of excuse. But most of the boxing world will simply recognize that Floyd's a better boxer.

i don't know who will win that fight; I haven't seen Manny in the ring nearly as much as i've seen Floyd, so I don't have a feel for him. I hope he brings Floyd his greatest challenge yet, because if he does, we'll see an incredible fight. we don't know how good Floyd can be. The better his opponent, the closer we come to finding that out.

If Manny brings out the very best in Floyd and still beats him ... well, then, that will be amazing and should qualify for one of the fights of the decade, if not the fight.

That's the kind of fight I want to see Floyd lose - where he was pressed to fight his best - which will be dazzling - and still unable to produce a victory.

Ring rust? Floyd? Is that why he did such a mediocre job against Mosely?

I don't think there will be room for any excuses in this one. Both fighters are in their early 30's and looking strong in all of their recent fights. I will most likely just accept that the better man won.

If you are looking at the Mayweather/Mosley fight and think I am only making excuses, I expressed the same concerns before the fight as I did after. Mosley was old and extremely inactive. Those are the facts. Mayweather fans might not want to hear that as they bask in their glory, but I will always tell it how I see it.

Manny/Floyd is a pick 'em for me, but I prefer the style of Manny so will be cheering him on (if he takes the blood tests). But seeing as I am not a known supporter of either fighter I will be able to sit back somewhat and just enjoy the fight for what it is.

[gest12645]

honestly , i think it'd be a close fight, but I'd still go with Mayweather. He's too big and skilled. but I wouldnt be money on this one . I've bet large amounts of cash on all of Mayweathers recent fights (on PBF) but this one is too close to call.

It's a tough one. I can see it going both ways, but both fighters have this uncanny knack of surprising you. I think too many are dismissing Manny on the back of the Mosley fight though. He will be a lot better than what Mosley was. Mosley always had a few question marks about him with the layoff and age.

Thats true, ppl have been on Floyd on the front and on the back after the Mosley fight.

[Boxer4life]

if this fight gets made, there will be no excuses........no one can say anything about the winner...they cant say o the opponent was.......nothing like that can be said, both guys are dominant, the fight is nothign but fair.....legendary

[mickel]

if pac hurts mayweather like that in the second round, it will be all over for floyd.

Who pac has fought in the past three years is far more impressive than who mayweather has fought. There's no comparison!

[El Kabong]

if pac hurts mayweather like that in the second round, it will be all over for floyd.

Who pac has fought in the past three years is far more impressive than who mayweather has fought. There's no comparison!

I totally agree, if Pac hurts Floyd he'll close it out....BUT those counter rights hurt Shane Mosley and if Floyd is able to hurt Shane then I think he's going to rock the hell out of Manny.

Either way I no longer see this fight going the distance

[JSwift]

I dont believe either of their resumes for the past few fights should be considered all star caliber. And while a lot of emphasis on this post seems to be focused on punching power. I think that Floyd's counter punching and more importantly, his 5-6 inch reach advantage will be a major factor. Of course this wont be the first time Pac has fought a man with longer arms, but fighting a guy with longer arms whose primary attacks are the left hand check hook and the straight right hand could spell problems. Maybe if Pac used more lateral movement I would feel better about his chances. Or the fact that Clottey could hit him when he decided during every lunar eclipse to throw a punch. There's no excuse for Manny's face to look like that after that fight.

[toe2toe]

I dont believe either of their resumes for the past few fights should be considered all star caliber. And while a lot of emphasis on this post seems to be focused on punching power. I think that Floyd's counter punching and more importantly, his 5-6 inch reach advantage will be a major factor. Of course this wont be the first time Pac has fought a man with longer arms, but fighting a guy with longer arms whose primary attacks are the left hand check hook and the straight right hand could spell problems. Maybe if Pac used more lateral movement I would feel better about his chances. Or the fact that Clottey could hit him when he decided during every lunar eclipse to throw a punch. There's no excuse for Manny's face to look like that after that fight.

clottey's offense was irrelevant. pacquiao won almost all the rounds. he dominated clottey and clottey didn't really hurt or wobbled pacquiao.