fuck the both of them, with each and every corny report of drama like this i grow less and less interested in this fight
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fuck the both of them, with each and every corny report of drama like this i grow less and less interested in this fight
This is a bull shit thread!
The is no negotiation new at all from either side.
The writer, Pacquiao Rejects Bigger Revenue Split For Mayweather - Boxing News, has no source and doesn't even quote a source. It's just another hungry writer looking for attention.
The deal Pac is seeking is the same deal that was offered to him earlier in the year. He rejected itQuote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
This has been suggested many times before. Why don't they go 40/40 and the winner gets the remainder? I'm sure after they settle this issue... Floyd will bittch again about the glove size.
It could of been 50-50 if Pacquiao would of took the same deal he's now asking for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
this is ridiculous, neither guy should get less blame here already, both of them are holding it up with their damn ego's, they both are to blame, FUCK MANNY PACQUIAO AND FUCK FLOYD MAYWEATHER, lets move on to the next big fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
The flaw in your argument is that "fighter of decade" is more than who your opponants were at welterweight, and it doesn't factor in PBF vs Mosely, since 2010 is not part of the previous decade.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Yes that's why Mayweather won boxer of the decade....Oh wait a minute he didn't the other fella did what's his name again?? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ManjuWhen PBF fought Mosley, Mosley was ranked higher P4P than Cotto was when he fought Pac. So yes, even though Cotto beat Mosely earlier, at the time of their respective fights, Mosely was better; most likely becasue Cotto was the victim of Margarito's plastering.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Fuck off hahah 39 year old Mosley at 147 is better then anyone Pac has ever fought you for real?? Didn't Cotto beat Mosley at 147 three years earlier?? Marquez both fights were much harder fights than Mosley for Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manju
Indeed, its quite an irony that PBFs competition at welter significantly outweighs PacMans. Clotty was coming off a loss and even b/f that was not on a HoF trajectory, unlike Mosely. Cotto was never the same after being plastered, while Hatton and ODLH were already thoroughly dissected by PBF himself b/f Pac took them down, albeit in even more brutal fashion to be fair.
In contrast, future HoFer ODLH wasn't far past his prime--having only lost to a bigger BHop, arguably should've gotten the decison over a juiced future HoFer Mosely (not to mention Trinidad), and thouroghly KO'd Mayorga--b/f PBF dismantled him. Hatton was an undefeated P4Per when PBF destroyed him while JMM, still a P4Per, fought Pac to a draw b/f being thououghly outclassed by PBF. And then there's Mosely.
PBF has faced superior competiton in ecent ears.
Pac has agreed to testing up to 14 days before the fight and directly after...if he is doping, he will be caught on that schedule. Floyd is the one playing games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manju
It is simply ridiculous to downplay Manny's win vs. ODLH. Practically eveyone was lambasting Oscar for taking an "easy" fight against a smaller man, giving PAc little chance...then he comprehensively whips ODLH, so now ODLH was shot and he gets no credit. Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManjuWhen PBF fought Mosley, Mosley was ranked higher P4P than Cotto was when he fought Pac. So yes, even though Cotto beat Mosely earlier, at the time of their respective fights, Mosely was better; most likely becasue Cotto was the victim of Margarito's plastering.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Fuck off hahah 39 year old Mosley at 147 is better then anyone Pac has ever fought you for real?? Didn't Cotto beat Mosley at 147 three years earlier?? Marquez both fights were much harder fights than Mosley for Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manju
Indeed, its quite an irony that PBFs competition at welter significantly outweighs PacMans. Clotty was coming off a loss and even b/f that was not on a HoF trajectory, unlike Mosely. Cotto was never the same after being plastered, while Hatton and ODLH were already thoroughly dissected by PBF himself b/f Pac took them down, albeit in even more brutal fashion to be fair.
In contrast, future HoFer ODLH wasn't far past his prime--having only lost to a bigger BHop, arguably should've gotten the decison over a juiced future HoFer Mosely (not to mention Trinidad), and thouroghly KO'd Mayorga--b/f PBF dismantled him. Hatton was an undefeated P4Per when PBF destroyed him while JMM, still a P4Per, fought Pac to a draw b/f being thououghly outclassed by PBF. And then there's Mosely.
PBF has faced superior competiton in ecent ears.
That would be "simply ridiculous" which is why I didn't say it. Nowhere did I mention ODHL was shot, nor did I give Pac "no credit." Indeed, I conceeded he beat ODLH "in even more brutal fashion" than did PBF.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClubberLangIt is simply ridiculous to downplay Manny's win vs. ODLH. Practically eveyone was lambasting Oscar for taking an "easy" fight against a smaller man, giving PAc little chance...then he comprehensively whips ODLH, so now ODLH was shot and he gets no credit. Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManjuWhen PBF fought Mosley, Mosley was ranked higher P4P than Cotto was when he fought Pac. So yes, even though Cotto beat Mosely earlier, at the time of their respective fights, Mosely was better; most likely becasue Cotto was the victim of Margarito's plastering.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Fuck off hahah 39 year old Mosley at 147 is better then anyone Pac has ever fought you for real?? Didn't Cotto beat Mosley at 147 three years earlier?? Marquez both fights were much harder fights than Mosley for Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manju
Indeed, its quite an irony that PBFs competition at welter significantly outweighs PacMans. Clotty was coming off a loss and even b/f that was not on a HoF trajectory, unlike Mosely. Cotto was never the same after being plastered, while Hatton and ODLH were already thoroughly dissected by PBF himself b/f Pac took them down, albeit in even more brutal fashion to be fair.
In contrast, future HoFer ODLH wasn't far past his prime--having only lost to a bigger BHop, arguably should've gotten the decison over a juiced future HoFer Mosely (not to mention Trinidad), and thouroghly KO'd Mayorga--b/f PBF dismantled him. Hatton was an undefeated P4Per when PBF destroyed him while JMM, still a P4Per, fought Pac to a draw b/f being thououghly outclassed by PBF. And then there's Mosely.
PBF has faced superior competiton in ecent ears.
But I was comparing PBFs competion to PacMans. The de la Hoya he fought was younger, was in a more inconveinient weighclasss, was also bigger than PBF, had only been thorughly beaten by B-Hop at middle, and was coming off a rather brutal KO of Mayorga, as oppossed to a UD against Forbes following a schooling at the hands of PBF himself.
I'm not disparaging PacMans competion, only pointing out that those who disparage PBFs, are at a loss to explain how Pacman's choices are so much braver. After all, he never fought the best welter out there (besides him and PBF) and fought 2 fighters who already had been beaten thouroughly by PBF himself. Those guys weren't shot. Thats good competition. But if thats good, then what is PBFs?
both guys deserve equal blame, and as it's been said there is no official word coming from each camp, it's all hearsay, and no Pacquiao doesn't deserve as much credit for the DLH fight, especially given Roach's comments as to why they took the fight, if your own trainer is saying you only fought the dude cause he knew he was shot, well why the fuck should anyone glorify it?Quote:
Originally Posted by ClubberLangIt is simply ridiculous to downplay Manny's win vs. ODLH. Practically eveyone was lambasting Oscar for taking an "easy" fight against a smaller man, giving PAc little chance...then he comprehensively whips ODLH, so now ODLH was shot and he gets no credit. Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManjuWhen PBF fought Mosley, Mosley was ranked higher P4P than Cotto was when he fought Pac. So yes, even though Cotto beat Mosely earlier, at the time of their respective fights, Mosely was better; most likely becasue Cotto was the victim of Margarito's plastering.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Fuck off hahah 39 year old Mosley at 147 is better then anyone Pac has ever fought you for real?? Didn't Cotto beat Mosley at 147 three years earlier?? Marquez both fights were much harder fights than Mosley for Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manju
Indeed, its quite an irony that PBFs competition at welter significantly outweighs PacMans. Clotty was coming off a loss and even b/f that was not on a HoF trajectory, unlike Mosely. Cotto was never the same after being plastered, while Hatton and ODLH were already thoroughly dissected by PBF himself b/f Pac took them down, albeit in even more brutal fashion to be fair.
In contrast, future HoFer ODLH wasn't far past his prime--having only lost to a bigger BHop, arguably should've gotten the decison over a juiced future HoFer Mosely (not to mention Trinidad), and thouroghly KO'd Mayorga--b/f PBF dismantled him. Hatton was an undefeated P4Per when PBF destroyed him while JMM, still a P4Per, fought Pac to a draw b/f being thououghly outclassed by PBF. And then there's Mosely.
PBF has faced superior competiton in ecent ears.
Good for him.Thats a slap in the face for any fighter on these guys level.These two need a dose of humility and come off the thrones though....makes fans tired and either piss or get off the pot.So many quality fights and fighters go by the wayside while waiting on this theatrical bs.
Sort out the egos and one upping between the ropes.
The fight should be 50 / 50 or as I read in a previous threat 40 / 40, and the winner takes the rest. This sh... is really getting bored, get an agreement or fight other boxer or retire. After all this I hope that if they fight it is not a boring fight as I am starting to suspect it could be. I just hope the agreement is not reached at age of 40 when someone may be broke and figting to pay delayed bills.
If anyone its floyd thats ducking the fight, hes the one making the ridiculous demands manny is just rejecting them, now if it was manny making stupid demands and floyd rejecting them then it would be manny ducking the fight, but its not, i dont get how anyone can convince them selves any different. the fact is i doubt floyd would miss the 10% more than he would miss the full purse if he fucks up this fight which it seems hes running the risk of doing, hmm.. funny that, money mayweather is willing to risk a purse as big as this when all he claims to care about is the money, this suggests he doesnt care too much about the money anyway, but if he doesnt care about the money then why would he demand he gets 20% more than manny? hmm, funny that :rolleyes: at the end of the day if he doesnt take this fight his legacy is ruined he knows this, the money that hes arguing over is peanuts to him he knows this, but despite all of this hes still making these ridiculous demands and risking tarnashing his legacy at this point after everything hes achieved in boxing, i see no logic in this, just fear tbh, for the record im not a fan of pac or mayweather im just sick of hearing about this fight so thought i would add my opinion, personally i hope he keeps pricing himself out as it wont be too long until hes past it anyway and then hell regret being so greedy.
No they don't. The blame falls directly at the feet of Manny Pacquiao. You don't turn down a deal than come back a couple of months later and try and accept the same deal. It don't work that way. Why the fuck didn't you take it the first time it was offered? I see they got to you. Fucking Pac groupieQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesboth guys deserve equal blame, and as it's been said there is no official word coming from each camp, it's all hearsay, and no Pacquiao doesn't deserve as much credit for the DLH fight, especially given Roach's comments as to why they took the fight, if your own trainer is saying you only fought the dude cause he knew he was shot, well why the fuck should anyone glorify it?Quote:
Originally Posted by ClubberLangIt is simply ridiculous to downplay Manny's win vs. ODLH. Practically eveyone was lambasting Oscar for taking an "easy" fight against a smaller man, giving PAc little chance...then he comprehensively whips ODLH, so now ODLH was shot and he gets no credit. Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManjuWhen PBF fought Mosley, Mosley was ranked higher P4P than Cotto was when he fought Pac. So yes, even though Cotto beat Mosely earlier, at the time of their respective fights, Mosely was better; most likely becasue Cotto was the victim of Margarito's plastering.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Fuck off hahah 39 year old Mosley at 147 is better then anyone Pac has ever fought you for real?? Didn't Cotto beat Mosley at 147 three years earlier?? Marquez both fights were much harder fights than Mosley for Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manju
Indeed, its quite an irony that PBFs competition at welter significantly outweighs PacMans. Clotty was coming off a loss and even b/f that was not on a HoF trajectory, unlike Mosely. Cotto was never the same after being plastered, while Hatton and ODLH were already thoroughly dissected by PBF himself b/f Pac took them down, albeit in even more brutal fashion to be fair.
In contrast, future HoFer ODLH wasn't far past his prime--having only lost to a bigger BHop, arguably should've gotten the decison over a juiced future HoFer Mosely (not to mention Trinidad), and thouroghly KO'd Mayorga--b/f PBF dismantled him. Hatton was an undefeated P4Per when PBF destroyed him while JMM, still a P4Per, fought Pac to a draw b/f being thououghly outclassed by PBF. And then there's Mosely.
PBF has faced superior competiton in ecent ears.