Pac rejects Mayweathers offer of 60/40 in Floyd's favour...

[ClubberLang]

I'm a PBF supporter. I think PacMan's ever-shigfting reasons to avoid Olympic style testing is suspicious and ultimately the reason the fight didn't occur earlier. PBF taking on SugarShane showed he had no fear, as Mosely is beter than anyone Pac ever fought at welter and perhaps at any divison.

But if PBF refuses to fight at 50-50, then he's the one ducking IMHO.

Fuck off hahah 39 year old Mosley at 147 is better then anyone Pac has ever fought you for real?? Didn't Cotto beat Mosley at 147 three years earlier?? Marquez both fights were much harder fights than Mosley for Mayweather.

When PBF fought Mosley, Mosley was ranked higher P4P than Cotto was when he fought Pac. So yes, even though Cotto beat Mosely earlier, at the time of their respective fights, Mosely was better; most likely becasue Cotto was the victim of Margarito's plastering.

Indeed, its quite an irony that PBFs competition at welter significantly outweighs PacMans. Clotty was coming off a loss and even b/f that was not on a HoF trajectory, unlike Mosely. Cotto was never the same after being plastered, while Hatton and ODLH were already thoroughly dissected by PBF himself b/f Pac took them down, albeit in even more brutal fashion to be fair.

In contrast, future HoFer ODLH wasn't far past his prime--having only lost to a bigger BHop, arguably should've gotten the decison over a juiced future HoFer Mosely (not to mention Trinidad), and thouroghly KO'd Mayorga--b/f PBF dismantled him. Hatton was an undefeated P4Per when PBF destroyed him while JMM, still a P4Per, fought Pac to a draw b/f being thououghly outclassed by PBF. And then there's Mosely.

PBF has faced superior competiton in ecent ears.

It is simply ridiculous to downplay Manny's win vs. ODLH. Practically eveyone was lambasting Oscar for taking an "easy" fight against a smaller man, giving PAc little chance...then he comprehensively whips ODLH, so now ODLH was shot and he gets no credit. Please.

[Manju]

I'm a PBF supporter. I think PacMan's ever-shigfting reasons to avoid Olympic style testing is suspicious and ultimately the reason the fight didn't occur earlier. PBF taking on SugarShane showed he had no fear, as Mosely is beter than anyone Pac ever fought at welter and perhaps at any divison.

But if PBF refuses to fight at 50-50, then he's the one ducking IMHO.

Fuck off hahah 39 year old Mosley at 147 is better then anyone Pac has ever fought you for real?? Didn't Cotto beat Mosley at 147 three years earlier?? Marquez both fights were much harder fights than Mosley for Mayweather.

When PBF fought Mosley, Mosley was ranked higher P4P than Cotto was when he fought Pac. So yes, even though Cotto beat Mosely earlier, at the time of their respective fights, Mosely was better; most likely becasue Cotto was the victim of Margarito's plastering.

Indeed, its quite an irony that PBFs competition at welter significantly outweighs PacMans. Clotty was coming off a loss and even b/f that was not on a HoF trajectory, unlike Mosely. Cotto was never the same after being plastered, while Hatton and ODLH were already thoroughly dissected by PBF himself b/f Pac took them down, albeit in even more brutal fashion to be fair.

In contrast, future HoFer ODLH wasn't far past his prime--having only lost to a bigger BHop, arguably should've gotten the decison over a juiced future HoFer Mosely (not to mention Trinidad), and thouroghly KO'd Mayorga--b/f PBF dismantled him. Hatton was an undefeated P4Per when PBF destroyed him while JMM, still a P4Per, fought Pac to a draw b/f being thououghly outclassed by PBF. And then there's Mosely.

PBF has faced superior competiton in ecent ears.

It is simply ridiculous to downplay Manny's win vs. ODLH. Practically eveyone was lambasting Oscar for taking an "easy" fight against a smaller man, giving PAc little chance...then he comprehensively whips ODLH, so now ODLH was shot and he gets no credit. Please.

That would be "simply ridiculous" which is why I didn't say it. Nowhere did I mention ODHL was shot, nor did I give Pac "no credit." Indeed, I conceeded he beat ODLH "in even more brutal fashion" than did PBF.

But I was comparing PBFs competion to PacMans. The de la Hoya he fought was younger, was in a more inconveinient weighclasss, was also bigger than PBF, had only been thorughly beaten by B-Hop at middle, and was coming off a rather brutal KO of Mayorga, as oppossed to a UD against Forbes following a schooling at the hands of PBF himself.

I'm not disparaging PacMans competion, only pointing out that those who disparage PBFs, are at a loss to explain how Pacman's choices are so much braver. After all, he never fought the best welter out there (besides him and PBF) and fought 2 fighters who already had been beaten thouroughly by PBF himself. Those guys weren't shot. Thats good competition. But if thats good, then what is PBFs?

[ElTerribleMorales]

I'm a PBF supporter. I think PacMan's ever-shigfting reasons to avoid Olympic style testing is suspicious and ultimately the reason the fight didn't occur earlier. PBF taking on SugarShane showed he had no fear, as Mosely is beter than anyone Pac ever fought at welter and perhaps at any divison.

But if PBF refuses to fight at 50-50, then he's the one ducking IMHO.

Fuck off hahah 39 year old Mosley at 147 is better then anyone Pac has ever fought you for real?? Didn't Cotto beat Mosley at 147 three years earlier?? Marquez both fights were much harder fights than Mosley for Mayweather.

When PBF fought Mosley, Mosley was ranked higher P4P than Cotto was when he fought Pac. So yes, even though Cotto beat Mosely earlier, at the time of their respective fights, Mosely was better; most likely becasue Cotto was the victim of Margarito's plastering.

Indeed, its quite an irony that PBFs competition at welter significantly outweighs PacMans. Clotty was coming off a loss and even b/f that was not on a HoF trajectory, unlike Mosely. Cotto was never the same after being plastered, while Hatton and ODLH were already thoroughly dissected by PBF himself b/f Pac took them down, albeit in even more brutal fashion to be fair.

In contrast, future HoFer ODLH wasn't far past his prime--having only lost to a bigger BHop, arguably should've gotten the decison over a juiced future HoFer Mosely (not to mention Trinidad), and thouroghly KO'd Mayorga--b/f PBF dismantled him. Hatton was an undefeated P4Per when PBF destroyed him while JMM, still a P4Per, fought Pac to a draw b/f being thououghly outclassed by PBF. And then there's Mosely.

PBF has faced superior competiton in ecent ears.

It is simply ridiculous to downplay Manny's win vs. ODLH. Practically eveyone was lambasting Oscar for taking an "easy" fight against a smaller man, giving PAc little chance...then he comprehensively whips ODLH, so now ODLH was shot and he gets no credit. Please.

both guys deserve equal blame, and as it's been said there is no official word coming from each camp, it's all hearsay, and no Pacquiao doesn't deserve as much credit for the DLH fight, especially given Roach's comments as to why they took the fight, if your own trainer is saying you only fought the dude cause he knew he was shot, well why the fuck should anyone glorify it?

[WayneFlint]

If anyone its floyd thats ducking the fight, hes the one making the ridiculous demands manny is just rejecting them, now if it was manny making stupid demands and floyd rejecting them then it would be manny ducking the fight, but its not, i dont get how anyone can convince them selves any different. the fact is i doubt floyd would miss the 10% more than he would miss the full purse if he fucks up this fight which it seems hes running the risk of doing, hmm.. funny that, money mayweather is willing to risk a purse as big as this when all he claims to care about is the money, this suggests he doesnt care too much about the money anyway, but if he doesnt care about the money then why would he demand he gets 20% more than manny? hmm, funny that at the end of the day if he doesnt take this fight his legacy is ruined he knows this, the money that hes arguing over is peanuts to him he knows this, but despite all of this hes still making these ridiculous demands and risking tarnashing his legacy at this point after everything hes achieved in boxing, i see no logic in this, just fear tbh, for the record im not a fan of pac or mayweather im just sick of hearing about this fight so thought i would add my opinion, personally i hope he keeps pricing himself out as it wont be too long until hes past it anyway and then hell regret being so greedy.

[Violent Demise]

I'm a PBF supporter. I think PacMan's ever-shigfting reasons to avoid Olympic style testing is suspicious and ultimately the reason the fight didn't occur earlier. PBF taking on SugarShane showed he had no fear, as Mosely is beter than anyone Pac ever fought at welter and perhaps at any divison.

But if PBF refuses to fight at 50-50, then he's the one ducking IMHO.

Fuck off hahah 39 year old Mosley at 147 is better then anyone Pac has ever fought you for real?? Didn't Cotto beat Mosley at 147 three years earlier?? Marquez both fights were much harder fights than Mosley for Mayweather.

When PBF fought Mosley, Mosley was ranked higher P4P than Cotto was when he fought Pac. So yes, even though Cotto beat Mosely earlier, at the time of their respective fights, Mosely was better; most likely becasue Cotto was the victim of Margarito's plastering.

Indeed, its quite an irony that PBFs competition at welter significantly outweighs PacMans. Clotty was coming off a loss and even b/f that was not on a HoF trajectory, unlike Mosely. Cotto was never the same after being plastered, while Hatton and ODLH were already thoroughly dissected by PBF himself b/f Pac took them down, albeit in even more brutal fashion to be fair.

In contrast, future HoFer ODLH wasn't far past his prime--having only lost to a bigger BHop, arguably should've gotten the decison over a juiced future HoFer Mosely (not to mention Trinidad), and thouroghly KO'd Mayorga--b/f PBF dismantled him. Hatton was an undefeated P4Per when PBF destroyed him while JMM, still a P4Per, fought Pac to a draw b/f being thououghly outclassed by PBF. And then there's Mosely.

PBF has faced superior competiton in ecent ears.

It is simply ridiculous to downplay Manny's win vs. ODLH. Practically eveyone was lambasting Oscar for taking an "easy" fight against a smaller man, giving PAc little chance...then he comprehensively whips ODLH, so now ODLH was shot and he gets no credit. Please.

both guys deserve equal blame, and as it's been said there is no official word coming from each camp, it's all hearsay, and no Pacquiao doesn't deserve as much credit for the DLH fight, especially given Roach's comments as to why they took the fight, if your own trainer is saying you only fought the dude cause he knew he was shot, well why the fuck should anyone glorify it?

No they don't. The blame falls directly at the feet of Manny Pacquiao. You don't turn down a deal than come back a couple of months later and try and accept the same deal. It don't work that way. Why the fuck didn't you take it the first time it was offered? I see they got to you. Fucking Pac groupie

[ElTerribleMorales]

I'm a PBF supporter. I think PacMan's ever-shigfting reasons to avoid Olympic style testing is suspicious and ultimately the reason the fight didn't occur earlier. PBF taking on SugarShane showed he had no fear, as Mosely is beter than anyone Pac ever fought at welter and perhaps at any divison.

But if PBF refuses to fight at 50-50, then he's the one ducking IMHO.

Fuck off hahah 39 year old Mosley at 147 is better then anyone Pac has ever fought you for real?? Didn't Cotto beat Mosley at 147 three years earlier?? Marquez both fights were much harder fights than Mosley for Mayweather.

When PBF fought Mosley, Mosley was ranked higher P4P than Cotto was when he fought Pac. So yes, even though Cotto beat Mosely earlier, at the time of their respective fights, Mosely was better; most likely becasue Cotto was the victim of Margarito's plastering.

Indeed, its quite an irony that PBFs competition at welter significantly outweighs PacMans. Clotty was coming off a loss and even b/f that was not on a HoF trajectory, unlike Mosely. Cotto was never the same after being plastered, while Hatton and ODLH were already thoroughly dissected by PBF himself b/f Pac took them down, albeit in even more brutal fashion to be fair.

In contrast, future HoFer ODLH wasn't far past his prime--having only lost to a bigger BHop, arguably should've gotten the decison over a juiced future HoFer Mosely (not to mention Trinidad), and thouroghly KO'd Mayorga--b/f PBF dismantled him. Hatton was an undefeated P4Per when PBF destroyed him while JMM, still a P4Per, fought Pac to a draw b/f being thououghly outclassed by PBF. And then there's Mosely.

PBF has faced superior competiton in ecent ears.

It is simply ridiculous to downplay Manny's win vs. ODLH. Practically eveyone was lambasting Oscar for taking an "easy" fight against a smaller man, giving PAc little chance...then he comprehensively whips ODLH, so now ODLH was shot and he gets no credit. Please.

both guys deserve equal blame, and as it's been said there is no official word coming from each camp, it's all hearsay, and no Pacquiao doesn't deserve as much credit for the DLH fight, especially given Roach's comments as to why they took the fight, if your own trainer is saying you only fought the dude cause he knew he was shot, well why the fuck should anyone glorify it?

No they don't. The blame falls directly at the feet of Manny Pacquiao. You don't turn down a deal than come back a couple of months later and try and accept the same deal. It don't work that way. Why the fuck didn't you take it the first time it was offered? I see they got to you. Fucking Pac groupie

yea that's me , fuck both Pacquiao and Mayweather, i honestly don't give a shit if the fight gets made, all this gay drama and bullshit basically killed any interest i had in this fight, there are plenty of big fights that can be made that don't involve these two divas, after Lopez beats Concepcion bring on R. Marquez Vs. Lopez