Extending Arms - Shadow Boxing

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Originally Posted by jahmez

You can't generate power with a straight right by transferring your weight to your back foot.

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totally right. If you don't transfer your weight from the back foot to the front foot your RIGHT HAND or even your JAB will be an ARM PUNCH with NO POWER.

And that's why you pivot with your right foot when you throw a right cross (on the balls of your feet), it helps with two things: gives the space for the rotation of the hips and the shoulders. That's why Scrap says the right foot is for power and the left foot is for direction - balance. To stay Balanced while throwing a Powerful right hand its recommended to make a TINY STEP to the LEFT. With this move even if you miss a very powerful right hand you won't be off-balanced.

Another way, this is just a clue as regards straight shots, any for that matter. What stops the tricep from working to its max is the muscle which is its antagonist, the Bicep. Now there are stretches that stop this and interesting ones they are.

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Originally Posted by Scrap

Another way, this is just a clue as regards straight shots, any for that matter. What stops the tricep from working to its max is the muscle which is its antagonist, the Bicep. Now there are stretches that stop this and interesting ones they are.

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Scrap, one of the stretches you posted for me actually helped a lot. I've noticed a strong correlation between punching speed and the amount of time I spend doing stretches.


But what are your thoughts on the transfer of weight between legs while you punch?

At first I figured it made sense, but lately I find more and more I'm comfortable keeping most my weight on my back leg, even while throwing shots. I feel that some weight naturally transfers to the front but, too much throws me off balance.

The other day I had a guy tell me to keep my weight always evenly distributed between both legs, and to never step or pivot with the jab and to always maintain that balance between the two legs... and at this point I'm pretty confused as to what the correct way is.

I dont want to build habits that are technically incorrect, regardless of how comfortable I am doing it.

valuable thread, thank you. - may even print this one out.

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Originally Posted by The Student

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Originally Posted by Scrap

Another way, this is just a clue as regards straight shots, any for that matter. What stops the tricep from working to its max is the muscle which is its antagonist, the Bicep. Now there are stretches that stop this and interesting ones they are.

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Scrap, one of the stretches you posted for me actually helped a lot. I've noticed a strong correlation between punching speed and the amount of time I spend doing stretches.


But what are your thoughts on the transfer of weight between legs while you punch?

At first I figured it made sense, but lately I find more and more I'm comfortable keeping most my weight on my back leg, even while throwing shots. I feel that some weight naturally transfers to the front but, too much throws me off balance.

The other day I had a guy tell me to keep my weight always evenly distributed between both legs, and to never step or pivot with the jab and to always maintain that balance between the two legs... and at this point I'm pretty confused as to what the correct way is.

I dont want to build habits that are technically incorrect, regardless of how comfortable I am doing it.

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Student or Scrap can you please tell me where the stretches are you are talking about in this post?!?!?!?!

Cambay please see the quote below, plus the link at the bottom.. there's a whole topic on scrap's stretching program... some great stuff there!

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Originally Posted by Scrap

okay you did weights, at a guess i would think the muscles that oppose the action of the jab the frontal muscles of the shoulder want losening and stretching. Look at scraps stretches try the stick one you can do it with a woody band. Now another you can try is put your hands to your side. Palms facing forward then pushing your shouders back, put one of your hands behind you and put it on the forearm 4 inch above the wrist of the other arm. Now push up with the straight arm and resists with the other arm and hand, while raising, when at 90% start coming down with the bent arm and resist with the other arm 3 times each side that should sort it after 2 weeks of doing it the jab should be a lot faster. Do it 2 times a day.

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http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...programme.html

Awsome stretches i recommend everyone to read this if you get a chance. Student believe it or not im haveing a hard time understanding the stretch described in your quote lol. I imagine one forearm across my back grabbing my other arm and then using a motion like a shoulder shrug while resisting with the arm and hand grabbing that arm. Is this wrong?

to be honest I had a tough time understanding it as well.. Sometimes Scraps descriptions take some time do decipher, but they're well worth the time spent trying to understand.

I'll try and explain it, BUT keep in mind I might be doing it wrong as well...

1) stand casually with both your hands to the side, but your palm facing forward instead of facing your body like you would normally stand)

2) reach behind your back your back with one hand (left for this example) and grab your right forearm about 4 inches above your forearm (I'd say about half way between the wrist and the elbow

note: for this step, make sure while grabbing your forearm, your palm is facing outward to the front of your body (or to put it another way have ur palms facing the direction you are looking), If you were to naturally reach around and grab your forearm you would have your palm facing backward.

3) once you have a grip of your right forearm, slowly start lefting your arm by bending at the elbow as if your doing a slow bicep curl.

4) once you have gone up 90% of full motion in your right arm slowly bring it back down to your side

5) repeat above steps with opposite arm

6) do it 3 times for each side

7) do it twice a day



.. hope that helps.. Scrap can correct me if I'm wrong.. good luck

Shoulers and kneck back at all times, Theres a better one than that, well a few but youre not getting them ;D

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Originally Posted by The Student

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Originally Posted by Scrap

Another way, this is just a clue as regards straight shots, any for that matter. What stops the tricep from working to its max is the muscle which is its antagonist, the Bicep. Now there are stretches that stop this and interesting ones they are.

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Scrap, one of the stretches you posted for me actually helped a lot. I've noticed a strong correlation between punching speed and the amount of time I spend doing stretches.


But what are your thoughts on the transfer of weight between legs while you punch?

At first I figured it made sense, but lately I find more and more I'm comfortable keeping most my weight on my back leg, even while throwing shots. I feel that some weight naturally transfers to the front but, too much throws me off balance.

The other day I had a guy tell me to keep my weight always evenly distributed between both legs, and to never step or pivot with the jab and to always maintain that balance between the two legs... and at this point I'm pretty confused as to what the correct way is.

I dont want to build habits that are technically incorrect, regardless of how comfortable I am doing it.

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This is the key to throwing a right hand and staying in good balance student keeping majority of the weight on the back leg and the front foot on the ball ready to explode off to return quickly back to on guard position after extending the right hand, if the left foots not up on the ball theres gonna be a lot of problems, as scrap refers to it as leaving on the biomechanical brake (the heel) which will result in a slow/lazy right hand, also like you said if you transfer to the front leg/plant the left heel your prone to being off balance or maybe not so much off balance just having too much weight distributed to the front leg which will slow down any evasive movement you may need if the right hand is being countered or a new angle has being established. basically you lose the ability to drive from the back foot as good and will also mess up the rotation of the pelvis towards the end of the shot which will result in an arm punch .

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Originally Posted by WayneFlint

This is the key to throwing a right hand and staying in good balance student keeping majority of the weight on the back leg and the front foot on the ball ready to explode off to return quickly back to on guard position after extending the right hand, if the left foots not up on the ball theres gonna be a lot of problems, as scrap refers to it as leaving on the biomechanical brake (the heel) which will result in a slow/lazy right hand, also like you said if you transfer to the front leg/plant the left heel your prone to being off balance or maybe not so much off balance just having too much weight distributed to the front leg which will slow down any evasive movement you may need if the right hand is being countered or a new angle has being established. basically you lose the ability to drive from the back foot as good and will also mess up the rotation of the pelvis towards the end of the shot which will result in an arm punch .

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sorry, but what you said is EXACTLY The Key for throwing an ARM PUNCH.

for a Powerful Right Hand (with the whole body-weight behind it) you should: Pivot with a right foot and with that automatically you transfer the weight from back to front (you can't Pivot with the back leg, stay up on the ball of the feet and still have the weight here), in the same time you make a TINY STEP-in to the left, which is the key to everything: Gives Great Balance, Maximum Power and your head will be in a position almost impossibly to counter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C6xE...eature=related

at 5:28 in this video, you see that very Tiny step with the left foot and the PIVOT with the right

The front Heel shouldnt be involved in the manouver, the front Heel is the Biomechanical Break. The Balance of the manouver are the Knees The Heel locks the Adductors stopping the Abductors from working . Thats what causes leaning with the shots, and loss of oral stability and balance. Usually caused with the feet being to wide, and compensating, making the shoulders tighten and slowing down speed of delivery.

So hold on guys, let me get this straight.. and please correct me if I' wrong.


From my understanding of it.. The heel of your back leg (or your right for orthodox boxers) should never ever touch the ground. You should always be on the balls correct?

Now, in order to throw an effective straight shot, your front (or your left) heel should never touch the ground either.. meaning that a proper boxing stance would require you to always be on the balls of your feet and never let your heels touch the ground?

If thats the case, that's one of the things I need to work on, my left heel seems to be on the ground, often.

Thanks for all the hep so far guys!

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Originally Posted by The Student

So hold on guys, let me get this straight.. and please correct me if I' wrong.


From my understanding of it.. The heel of your back leg (or your right for orthodox boxers) should never ever touch the ground. You should always be on the balls correct?

ABSOLUTELY, When throwing a right hand, your back foot pivots and automatically you are on the ball of your feet. Watch every great proffessional boxer from any era throwing a right hand, The heel of their back leg NEVER TOUCHES THE GROUND


Now, in order to throw an effective straight shot, your front (or your left) heel should never touch the ground either.. meaning that a proper boxing stance would require you to always be on the balls of your feet and never let your heels touch the ground?

I am not sure about this one, a PROPER right hand should be thrown that way definitely with the left leg on the balls of your feet, but i have seen great champions knocking people out with thair left heel on the ground

If thats the case, that's one of the things I need to work on, my left heel seems to be on the ground, often.

TRY TO DO A TINY STEP-in to the left (WITH THE LEFT LEG) a little bit when you throw a Right Cross. You will never be OFF-BALANCED, you will generate maximum power and your head won't be a target for a counter-punch

Thanks for all the hep so far guys

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Badri hari When you say step in, do you mean step in to your opponent or the inside of your body? I assume in to your opponent has in angles? If yes then i agree this step in would be proper technique, it is one of the many angles that any fighter should learn and come to love. They are simple but to use them effectively takes alot of practice. And yes i pretty much stay on the balls of my feet the whole time.


Here is exactly how i throw my straight right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBMLh...eature=related