Re: All this talk about Mayweather maybe being a little past it?
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Watch him against Mosley again. Floyd's footwork is no longer what it used to be. That's the reason why he got tagged a couple of times. The more Floyd delay this fight, the less credit Pac will get. I guarantee, this Pac-May hype will get colder and colder. And Pac can't be the one to be blamed.
When did Floyd need footwork against Mosley? He a couple times against Mosley because the first one was a good one-two combination, and its Shane MOsley. People are acting like he was fighting some punk, By the end MOsley only landed 20% of his punches. Marquez only landed 12% of his clearly, and in neither fight was Mayweather consistently on the ropes like he was against Hatton and Oscar, or even Jesus Chavez or Jose Luis Castillo earlier in his career. I think Floyd has realized guys won't back you up if you stand your ground. Honestly did Floyd move a lot when he faced Zab Judah either? No he didn't, because he was being the aggressor. When Floyd did move in these two fights it was only to get out of immediate danger. Both Marquez(who could catch Pacquiao moving backwards), and Mosley(who caught Collazo moving backwards) couldn't catch him quick enough.
The footspeed thing is just a lame ploy by Freddie Roach to implant either doubt in Mayweather or to attempt to throw Floyd's team off what he really would want Manny to do against Mayweather. It's as ridiculous as saying Manny has lost footspeed because he didn't use as much footspeed against Cotto or Clottey as he did against RIcky Hatton, they are different fighters who require different strategies.
Re: All this talk about Mayweather maybe being a little past it?
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ElTerribleMorales
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Taeth
I don't get how they can say Floyd could possibly past it, when he has absolutely dominated the two guys besides himself and Manny who were considered the next best fighter in the world. Not only did he beat these guys, but these were both among the top 3 fights of his career without a doubt. In what facility has there been any hint of a decline in Floyd's abilities inside the ring? He at the very least has managed to maintain his high level of dominance, and as his body adjusts more and more to being a welterweight I would say he is a better 147 pounder now then when he originally entered the division.
don't forget to take his dick out of your mouth to breathe...
Sorry I thought his dick was in your boy's Marquez's mouth? Or maybe Margarito's? Now that he beat one up, and beat the guy who kicked the crap out of the other one.
Re: All this talk about Mayweather maybe being a little past it?
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Taeth
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ElTerribleMorales
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Taeth
I don't get how they can say Floyd could possibly past it, when he has absolutely dominated the two guys besides himself and Manny who were considered the next best fighter in the world. Not only did he beat these guys, but these were both among the top 3 fights of his career without a doubt. In what facility has there been any hint of a decline in Floyd's abilities inside the ring? He at the very least has managed to maintain his high level of dominance, and as his body adjusts more and more to being a welterweight I would say he is a better 147 pounder now then when he originally entered the division.
don't forget to take his dick out of your mouth to breathe...
Sorry I thought his dick was in your boy's Marquez's mouth? Or maybe Margarito's? Now that he beat one up, and beat the guy who kicked the crap out of the other one.
since when have i been big on Marquez? lol and you're gloating on about how Mayweather (a welterweight, and former Jr. middleweight champion) beat up the current Lightweight champion?!? lmao who gives a fuck about Margarito i hope the cheat gets his ass whooped again, but yea i'm pretty sure that you have a vice grip on Mayweather's dick calling dibs on the damn thing lol just a quick newsflash, boxing is a lot bigger than Floyd Mayweather Jr
Re: All this talk about Mayweather maybe being a little past it?
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SRR
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J da Bomba
Shortly after the Mayweather/ Mosley fight, Manny Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, claimed that Floyd Mayweather's legs had gone. He's reasoning for this assumption went something along the lines of ''Floyd has become too flat footed''.
At first I though this was bullshit, as most people would, but then I was somehow recently reminded of something that Mayweather had said in another interview shortly after the same fight,, with regards to the shot that Mosley had him in trouble with.
Mayweather said something to the effect of ''I've been hit with harder shots, Corley's shot hurt me more than Molsey's''.
If that's the case, which it could well be, why the hell did Mayweather's legs give out on him?
Baring in mind, this was only the 2nd round (as opposed to the mid-late rounds like against Corely). Mayweather was fresh as a daisy.
So if Corley hurt him more, and he was fresher against Mosley... Why did his legs go?
The answer may well be in the question ;)
I don't think FMJ has ever been hit that hard and that cleanly.
Let's not forget that it's not just about how hard you hit the other guy, but where; the first punch rattled Floyd's cage, hitting him square on the left side of his jaw, and the second one caught him right behind/on the ear. These are both spots that every boxer will tell you they aim to hit whenever possible, because both are pressure points that represent short cuts to incapacitating one's opponent. When SSM hit FMJ clean on the ear with a hard right hand shot his brain was scrambled momentarily - that's why his legs went. Nothing to do with being old, just human. Could happen to anyone. Though I agree that FMJ has a tendency lately not to use his footwork so much - I don't think it's declined, really, though, I think it's just Floyd trying to be as efficient in winning as he possibly can. Also, FMJ hadn't fought anyone with Mosely's speed in quite a while, and I think he was genuinely caught off guard for once. You know, when you fight slower guys for a while you sometimes forget the rhythms required to properly tackle guys with better handspeed. As for Roach, as someone else already said - just appealing to Floyd's ego to try and make the fight happen sooner rather than later.
Good post, makes a lot of sense.
I have no longer have an issue with Mayweathers legs :p
