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I will be extremely upset if that is the case. I really want him to push himself for one final run. I think he can beat someone like Haye if he can just focus on training and upping the opposition level during a couple more quick fights. Otherwise what was the point in this? It can't just be about the money as he was obviously not paid very much for this bout. And you can't tell me Toney is serious in saying that NOBODY will fight him. It's frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Miles no way can he beat Haye, he is well past it.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI will be extremely upset if that is the case. I really want him to push himself for one final run. I think he can beat someone like Haye if he can just focus on training and upping the opposition level during a couple more quick fights. Otherwise what was the point in this? It can't just be about the money as he was obviously not paid very much for this bout. And you can't tell me Toney is serious in saying that NOBODY will fight him. It's frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Perhaps, but I would like to see more before my mind is made up. All I have seen is a rectangular shaped 20 second snippet of this fight. I don't really know how he looked and neither does anyone outside of those that went to watch. The snippet was probably that shape because it made him look slimmer. Still, you can never leave the JFAT alliance and I still cling on to that slim hope that he can raise it for one final push over the course of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMiles no way can he beat Haye, he is well past it.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI will be extremely upset if that is the case. I really want him to push himself for one final run. I think he can beat someone like Haye if he can just focus on training and upping the opposition level during a couple more quick fights. Otherwise what was the point in this? It can't just be about the money as he was obviously not paid very much for this bout. And you can't tell me Toney is serious in saying that NOBODY will fight him. It's frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He has the same chance as Audley winning mate.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by milesPerhaps, but I would like to see more before my mind is made up. All I have seen is a rectangular shaped 20 second snippet of this fight. I don't really know how he looked and neither does anyone outside of those that went to watch. The snippet was probably that shape because it made him look slimmer. Still, you can never leave the JFAT alliance and I still cling on to that slim hope that he can raise it for one final push over the course of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMiles no way can he beat Haye, he is well past it.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI will be extremely upset if that is the case. I really want him to push himself for one final run. I think he can beat someone like Haye if he can just focus on training and upping the opposition level during a couple more quick fights. Otherwise what was the point in this? It can't just be about the money as he was obviously not paid very much for this bout. And you can't tell me Toney is serious in saying that NOBODY will fight him. It's frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I disagree strongly with that statement. Audley is truly crap, but Toney, even as a fat HW has great smarts. In fact I wouldn't mind seeing that as another fight in Toney's quick run of tune ups in an effort to lose the weight before stepping it up again. Audley then Barrett then a top 10 guy and then a final shot. Of course, it could all go horribly wrong. But at least give it a shot and put it all beyond any doubt. And do it in a year rather than a decade like Haye did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe has the same chance as Audley winning mate.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by milesPerhaps, but I would like to see more before my mind is made up. All I have seen is a rectangular shaped 20 second snippet of this fight. I don't really know how he looked and neither does anyone outside of those that went to watch. The snippet was probably that shape because it made him look slimmer. Still, you can never leave the JFAT alliance and I still cling on to that slim hope that he can raise it for one final push over the course of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMiles no way can he beat Haye, he is well past it.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI will be extremely upset if that is the case. I really want him to push himself for one final run. I think he can beat someone like Haye if he can just focus on training and upping the opposition level during a couple more quick fights. Otherwise what was the point in this? It can't just be about the money as he was obviously not paid very much for this bout. And you can't tell me Toney is serious in saying that NOBODY will fight him. It's frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Toney is shite and IMO has been ever since he moved to HW. He beat an injured Evander well and other than that he has been crap at HW. He was a great fighter from 160-175 but he's just not a HW fact. Haye would absolutely demolish him but I'm not getting into that because it will never happen because Toney is a fucking great big fat fucking joke!Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI disagree strongly with that statement. Audley is truly crap, but Toney, even as a fat HW has great smarts. In fact I wouldn't mind seeing that as another fight in Toney's quick run of tune ups in an effort to lose the weight before stepping it up again. Audley then Barrett then a top 10 guy and then a final shot. Of course, it could all go horribly wrong. But at least give it a shot and put it all beyond any doubt. And do it in a year rather than a decade like Haye did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe has the same chance as Audley winning mate.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by milesPerhaps, but I would like to see more before my mind is made up. All I have seen is a rectangular shaped 20 second snippet of this fight. I don't really know how he looked and neither does anyone outside of those that went to watch. The snippet was probably that shape because it made him look slimmer. Still, you can never leave the JFAT alliance and I still cling on to that slim hope that he can raise it for one final push over the course of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMiles no way can he beat Haye, he is well past it.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI will be extremely upset if that is the case. I really want him to push himself for one final run. I think he can beat someone like Haye if he can just focus on training and upping the opposition level during a couple more quick fights. Otherwise what was the point in this? It can't just be about the money as he was obviously not paid very much for this bout. And you can't tell me Toney is serious in saying that NOBODY will fight him. It's frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Steroids also cause man boobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
As does eating as much as a full grown manatee.
He'll be boxing again and soon. Just what I want to see. If Toney can fight 4-5 times this year I will be delighted. Stay busy and let the pounds come off fight by fight.
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Originally Posted by miles
I am with you Miles. Another solid victory for Toney.
Shocking weight, but we're still paying for him to fight soft competition and sort of allowing him to come in in bad shape.
Instead of MMA Toney should give sumo wrestling a shot.:sumo: He looked so bad trying MMA, like he thought Coture was just gonna box him. Randy shot on him and he just looked like he was waiting for a ref to break them. Then he laid on his back, just getting bitch slapped, rolling around and finally into a rear naked choke. Just a horrible attempt.
Yep. I felt totally stupid for thinking Toney was going to get in shape and use some real footwork to avoid the takedown when he fought Couture. He is a disgrace and wouldn't even be licensed for me. If he was in genuine shape now he would weigh about 185lbs, so IMO he is carrying about 70lbs too much the fat twat!Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Good shape would be about 215-220 for Toney. The man weighed 190 in high school when he played football for God sakes. 257 is just a fucking insult to all his fans though. What fans he has left after embarassing himself and the sport with his little stunt against Randy Couture.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuYep. I felt totally stupid for thinking Toney was going to get in shape and use some real footwork to avoid the takedown when he fought Couture. He is a disgrace and wouldn't even be licensed for me. If he was in genuine shape now he would weigh about 185lbs, so IMO he is carrying about 70lbs too much the fat twat!Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
At cruiserweight Toney did great that fight vs Jirov was awesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuToney is shite and IMO has been ever since he moved to HW. He beat an injured Evander well and other than that he has been crap at HW. He was a great fighter from 160-175 but he's just not a HW fact. Haye would absolutely demolish him but I'm not getting into that because it will never happen because Toney is a fucking great big fat fucking joke!Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI disagree strongly with that statement. Audley is truly crap, but Toney, even as a fat HW has great smarts. In fact I wouldn't mind seeing that as another fight in Toney's quick run of tune ups in an effort to lose the weight before stepping it up again. Audley then Barrett then a top 10 guy and then a final shot. Of course, it could all go horribly wrong. But at least give it a shot and put it all beyond any doubt. And do it in a year rather than a decade like Haye did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe has the same chance as Audley winning mate.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by milesPerhaps, but I would like to see more before my mind is made up. All I have seen is a rectangular shaped 20 second snippet of this fight. I don't really know how he looked and neither does anyone outside of those that went to watch. The snippet was probably that shape because it made him look slimmer. Still, you can never leave the JFAT alliance and I still cling on to that slim hope that he can raise it for one final push over the course of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMiles no way can he beat Haye, he is well past it.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI will be extremely upset if that is the case. I really want him to push himself for one final run. I think he can beat someone like Haye if he can just focus on training and upping the opposition level during a couple more quick fights. Otherwise what was the point in this? It can't just be about the money as he was obviously not paid very much for this bout. And you can't tell me Toney is serious in saying that NOBODY will fight him. It's frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Timeless fight. I never get tired of watching that one. I love watching Toney fight full stop, but it was great to see Toney taken to his limits by a high output guy with freaky stamina. One of my dream matchups is Toney/Calzaghe at SMW or LHW. Such a great mesh of styles.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongAt cruiserweight Toney did great that fight vs Jirov was awesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuToney is shite and IMO has been ever since he moved to HW. He beat an injured Evander well and other than that he has been crap at HW. He was a great fighter from 160-175 but he's just not a HW fact. Haye would absolutely demolish him but I'm not getting into that because it will never happen because Toney is a fucking great big fat fucking joke!Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI disagree strongly with that statement. Audley is truly crap, but Toney, even as a fat HW has great smarts. In fact I wouldn't mind seeing that as another fight in Toney's quick run of tune ups in an effort to lose the weight before stepping it up again. Audley then Barrett then a top 10 guy and then a final shot. Of course, it could all go horribly wrong. But at least give it a shot and put it all beyond any doubt. And do it in a year rather than a decade like Haye did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe has the same chance as Audley winning mate.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by milesPerhaps, but I would like to see more before my mind is made up. All I have seen is a rectangular shaped 20 second snippet of this fight. I don't really know how he looked and neither does anyone outside of those that went to watch. The snippet was probably that shape because it made him look slimmer. Still, you can never leave the JFAT alliance and I still cling on to that slim hope that he can raise it for one final push over the course of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMiles no way can he beat Haye, he is well past it.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI will be extremely upset if that is the case. I really want him to push himself for one final run. I think he can beat someone like Haye if he can just focus on training and upping the opposition level during a couple more quick fights. Otherwise what was the point in this? It can't just be about the money as he was obviously not paid very much for this bout. And you can't tell me Toney is serious in saying that NOBODY will fight him. It's frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master