115-113 Degail edged it
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115-113 Degail edged it
When will fighters learn , if you mouth off im going to KO this bum etc , and the knockout doesnt happen , then you are setting yourself up for a fall.
Jim McDonnell said " fighters like Degale come around once in a lifetime "
Well Jim , Degale isnt special, he has a lazy style - he doesnt punch correctly - he doesnt punch hard enough to go to the very top, the list goes on.
DeGale = rank average.
I thought Groves won about 7-5. Excellent gameplan. Stopped DeGale from getting off the eye-catching flashy combos up close. Constant movement. Adam Booth is a smart funker. He made Jim McDonnell (who I like) look like a mug. They should have been ready for Groves to change tactics. Haye has been saying one thing only to do the opposite for ages now.
Good result for British boxing. Groves now has a springboard to bigger things and DeGale can easily come back from that. Might have done him good as far as his actual boxing goes.
I did not score the fight but I got the impression that Groves was edging most rounds.
Also DeGale seemed a bit fazed at the reception he got from the crowd.
I was at the fight and scored it 116-112 for Groves.
I was at the fight too and thought pretty much the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronDanLaw
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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
a lot was resolved
before the fight the majority of people in boxing and on here were saying groves wasnt in his league, it would be an easy night for degale
it wsnt, groves beat him in a way i nevere thought he could, he outboxed him
Spot on Eric you said this fight would be close, I had Groves winning. Degale look clueless in there, I think we will see the end of Jim McDonnell now he does seem a bit of a cheer leader blowing smoke up his arse all the time, Degale just didnt have a clue on how to fight Groves when he was on the back foot?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
a lot was resolved
before the fight the majority of people in boxing and on here were saying groves wasnt in his league, it would be an easy night for degale
it wsnt, groves beat him in a way i nevere thought he could, he outboxed him
That leads me to believe McDonnell did not prepare for this sort of fight he thought Groves waS coming for a scrap, he should of covered all possibilites, I can't believe Degale would of looked that silly early on if he had worked on a gameplan of Groves fighting on the back foot.
Credit to Adam Booth again very good game plan once again from him, does come across a bit of an odd character but he did the biz again last night.
Yeah all those two wally's (Jim Mc/DeGale) went on about was Grove's chin. I mean McDonnell was predicting a first round KO, now normally you'd think that was just hype shit, but it seems they really thought it was an easy KO night.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Spot on Eric you said this fight would be close, I had Groves winning. Degale look clueless in there, I think we will see the end of Jim McDonnell now he does seem a bit of a cheer leader blowing smoke up his arse all the time, Degale just didnt have a clue on how to fight Groves when he was on the back foot?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
a lot was resolved
before the fight the majority of people in boxing and on here were saying groves wasnt in his league, it would be an easy night for degale
it wsnt, groves beat him in a way i nevere thought he could, he outboxed him
That leads me to believe McDonnell did not prepare for this sort of fight he thought Groves waS coming for a scrap, he should of covered all possibilites, I can't believe Degale would of looked that silly early on if he had worked on a gameplan of Groves fighting on the back foot.
Credit to Adam Booth again very good game plan once again from him, does come across a bit of an odd character but he did the biz again last night.
Groves/Booth mugged them right off.
i agree that mcdonnall hasnt shown himself in the best lightQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterYeah all those two wally's (Jim Mc/DeGale) went on about was Grove's chin. I mean McDonnell was predicting a first round KO, now normally you'd think that was just hype shit, but it seems they really thought it was an easy KO night.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Spot on Eric you said this fight would be close, I had Groves winning. Degale look clueless in there, I think we will see the end of Jim McDonnell now he does seem a bit of a cheer leader blowing smoke up his arse all the time, Degale just didnt have a clue on how to fight Groves when he was on the back foot?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
a lot was resolved
before the fight the majority of people in boxing and on here were saying groves wasnt in his league, it would be an easy night for degale
it wsnt, groves beat him in a way i nevere thought he could, he outboxed him
That leads me to believe McDonnell did not prepare for this sort of fight he thought Groves waS coming for a scrap, he should of covered all possibilites, I can't believe Degale would of looked that silly early on if he had worked on a gameplan of Groves fighting on the back foot.
Credit to Adam Booth again very good game plan once again from him, does come across a bit of an odd character but he did the biz again last night.
Groves/Booth mugged them right off.
even in the build up he was letting degale run his mouth and sound like a twat
it was more like degale was in charge and mcdonnell was his sidekick
i wonder if they will stay together
From what I have seen I doubt it, Warren was especially pissed with the tactics, did you see his interview? Haha to be fair who is Warren to comment on tactics he is a fucking promoter but he said the uppercut was there to be landed and wasn't once, he also said maybe the people blowing smoke up Degales arse will be gone, not sure if that was a dig aimed at McDonnell or just cheerleaders who are around Degale all the time.
For me McDonnell is a yes man he has got a meal ticket with Degale, Degale is the boss he is the one paying Jim his wages without Degale he would be earning about 500 quid a fight. Degale needs a change for me not a yes man, I would do a Khan get away from the distractions in London and get on a plane to America and get someone like Richardson or Roach.
I agree with the post above, change of trainer is needed and I think it is better if James went to the USA like Khan did.
its good to see most people thought groves had won
i though he got a lead at the start and kept it
it seemed like they were taking the rounds in turns
i think if it had have been a 15 round fight then Degale may have won it
I will let you know when I watch the repeat on sky for free. :)
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Originally Posted by Master
Yes I am going to watch it in the cold sober light of day and see what I think then.:p