Calzaghe should make a comeback. I mean why not? Wonder if he's tempted
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Calzaghe should make a comeback. I mean why not? Wonder if he's tempted
He retired at exactly the right time. He said himself that he was starting to slip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
I'm just producing the stats. It's just an observation.
I'm not stating Calzaghe was better than Hopkins... although he did make Hopkins bring the sport into disrepute with some of the most disgraceful cheating ever witnessed in a ring. But still...
I totally agree, I used to be one of Calzaghe's biggest critics, but that all changed after he destroyed Jeff Lacy and finished his career moving up in weight to fight Hopkins & Jones Jr.. Too bad Calzaghe, didn't get more credit during his career for what he was able to accomplish, but anyway you look at it, 46-0 ain't too shabby, and those of us who know boxing will always give him the credit he deserves.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
BTW, I also agree that Calzaghe, clearly beat Hopkins, by 4 or 5 rounds, name someone who's been able to accomplish that. :)
Yep thats gotta be his best win, out of the 3-4 good fighters he's faced in 46 fights. ;D
I think this is right!
I wonder sometimes if BHOP wished he had that fight back. He fought like he had no faith in his own stamina.
Now that is to take nothing away from Clazaghe who I thought won nine rounds of that fight. But I do think BHOP matured in his understanding of his 40+ body after that (if that makes sense).
Of course all that matters is what happened so I'll stop speculating. A casae like this is why one cannot really rate a fighter until after hyis compeition has retired.
I'm stunned how many good posters here had BHOP winning that fight. Do I REALLY have to torture myself and go back and watch again? I thought slapping deserved more credit than the 1-2-headrush :)
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Originally Posted by porkypara
Agreed. That was Joes first fight in the States and in Vegas no less and he horsed around for a third of the fight and still won.
I also had B-Hop beating Joe Calzaghe by 1 point, i also don't agree with punchstats all the time. I mean i really can't recall Joe Calzaghe really landing a telling blow all night, i mean out of the 200+ punches he supposedly landed, how many were effective clean shots ?
B-Hop also floored Joe Calzaghe, and almost knocked him down again in another round. Give me the effective straight right hand leads of B-Hop anyday, over Joe Calzaghe's windmill punches that hit arms and air.
Give me a fucking break.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Calzaghe BARELY won that fight against Bernard IF he won it at all.
And he got knocked down.
Hopkins win last night makes Hopkins look better and NO ONE ELSE.
Fuck Calzaghe. He's a fucking disgrace.
Stop holding back, tell us what you really feel. :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkGive me a fucking break.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Calzaghe BARELY won that fight against Bernard IF he won it at all.
And he got knocked down.
Hopkins win last night makes Hopkins look better and NO ONE ELSE.
Fuck Calzaghe. He's a fucking disgrace.
Calzaghe's best wins are over young lions like Jeff Lacy and Mikkell Kessler.Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestStop holding back, tell us what you really feel. :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkGive me a fucking break.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Calzaghe BARELY won that fight against Bernard IF he won it at all.
And he got knocked down.
Hopkins win last night makes Hopkins look better and NO ONE ELSE.
Fuck Calzaghe. He's a fucking disgrace.
NOT barely winning a controversial split decision against a post 40 Bernard and dominating a totally shot Roy Jones.
There was little glory or honor in those victories. Especially the Jones win.
I agree with Hulk to an extent. If Cazlaghes win over Hopkins now looks impressive based on his recent outings then the converse regarding Roy Jones must also be true. That Jones dropped Calzaghe and took him 12 rounds with that chin is making Joe look pretty embarrassing I think.
Quit at the right time....
now tally up how many of those "shots" that Calzaghe "landed" were on the gloves and armsQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
and then add up how many shots B-Hop landed flush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zebku8KZfuI
the only thing you can applaud White Nose Joe on in that fight is that he finally gained the courage to come out the closet and grind up on Hopkins
You're right Calzaghe should have played it like B-Hop, beat up blownup Welterweights to make a name for himself early in his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
You can argue who won the fight, but that whiteboy didn't make it easy for B-Hop. THis whole B-Hop won 4 or 5 more rounds is ridiculous.