Mayweather announces ring return against Ortiz on Sept. 17

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

Nobody from the Y2k era can beat Floyd.. Maybe a prime Forrest but that's about it.

He deserves all the credit once he steps inside the ring with this true young lion in Victor Ortiz. I can't believe some of ya arent happy with this matchup.

Floyd is going to rip Ortiz a new asshole and here's why. Besides the fact that he's few notches above him, FLoyd fights souhtpaws aggressive. He totally switches up his style when up against these southpaw opponents and he's going to walk Ortiz down and punish him. He should fight Martinez after and retire as a true great. Beating martinez means just as much to the eyes of true boxing fans and he should retire after that.

If he beats Ortiz and MArtinez, he'd be a top 20 ATG for me..

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Ortiz will get beat down unless Floyd's punch resistance has diminished at all. Is he requiring OSD of Ortiz after Berto's accusations?

I've seen that too. I believe thought that he picked Ortiz because he plans on facing Pacquiao in the future and he wanted to face a southpaw as a tune-up.

There just is no reason to fight Martinez if Pacquiao is out there and a less risky fight. And if we know nothing about Floyd, one thing we do know, is that he fights for $, not for legacy.

Not long after the Ortiz vs Berto fight, Berto accuses Ortiz of using PEDs. It is interesting how Mayweather acts on this accusation. Will he require Ortiz to undergo OSDT? If not, then all of Mayweather's claim of wanting to clean boxing of PEDs is just an excuse to avoid Pacquiao.

Ortiz will conform to all floyds drug tests like mosley. He has nothing to hide.

Already hate this fight. Ortiz deserves a payday, but he also deserves a chance to make a few defenses of his title, keep that hunger going, improve his skills and thrill fans with some good fights while coming into his own.
But no, as soon as he gets a belt, Here comes mayweather out from behind the retirement, crap talking webcam to dance away with this kids title and then keep them on hiatus while we listen to round 3 or 4 of "take the tests/ no, you don't make the rules"...
Screw that... boxing needs more fighters/ competitors like Ortiz and less self businessmen like mayweather.
- A former Mayweather fan.

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

Nobody from the Y2k era can beat Floyd.. Maybe a prime Forrest but that's about it.

He deserves all the credit once he steps inside the ring with this true young lion in Victor Ortiz. I can't believe some of ya arent happy with this matchup.

Floyd is going to rip Ortiz a new asshole and here's why. Besides the fact that he's few notches above him, FLoyd fights souhtpaws aggressive. He totally switches up his style when up against these southpaw opponents and he's going to walk Ortiz down and punish him. He should fight Martinez after and retire as a true great. Beating martinez means just as much to the eyes of true boxing fans and he should retire after that.

If he beats Ortiz and MArtinez, he'd be a top 20 ATG for me..

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Ortiz will get beat down unless Floyd's punch resistance has diminished at all. Is he requiring OSD of Ortiz after Berto's accusations?

I've seen that too. I believe thought that he picked Ortiz because he plans on facing Pacquiao in the future and he wanted to face a southpaw as a tune-up.

There just is no reason to fight Martinez if Pacquiao is out there and a less risky fight. And if we know nothing about Floyd, one thing we do know, is that he fights for $, not for legacy.

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IF he doesn't want to look like a complete phoney, he should demand blood testing on Ortiz and Im sure he knows this better than all of us. He'll demand it and Ortiz will oblige. I dont think it will be an issue at all.

I agree. ORtiz' southpaw style will prepare him well for Pacman. I dont see who else can give him a good look as a southpaw. Ortiz bout is more than respectable. And based on Ortiz' current form, i dont see him as a tuneup at all..

Floyd loves money but i think he DOES care alot about his legacy. To him, two things that's more important than money are his well-being and his perfect record. At this point of his career, he knows that he can make good money fighting pretty much anybody so he's not all that concerened about fighting pacman. As long as he can make good money and secure his shiny record, he's fine...

Well Ortiz should at least put up a better show than the last two. I'm actually slightly compelled by this match up.

I find it interesting how everybody gets a heart attack whenever we hear of Floyd facing someone that is not Manny. But have Manny pick fights such as Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, JMM in a weight he has shown to NOT be effective, etc. who are no threats what so ever, and nobody says a thing.

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Originally Posted by Chino

I find it interesting how everybody gets a heart attack whenever we hear of Floyd facing someone that is not Manny. But have Manny pick fights such as Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, JMM in a weight he has shown to NOT be effective, etc. who are no threats what so ever, and nobody says a thing.

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Real talk... There is clearly a double standard.

A-fuc-ingmazing. Five minutes ago ortiz quit against a b fighter at best with no boxing skills in maidana and the whole world was calling him shit and saying he should quit. Next the dude barely survives and gets a draw against peterson, he beats berto and now he can beat floyd ???!!!!! Wow hbo lost pac and they are desperate. If peterson could outbox ortiz floyd sure as shit will. Ortiz will loose damn near every round, and outside of floyd fighting pac or martinez no one should really care.

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

Well Ortiz should at least put up a better show than the last two. I'm actually slightly compelled by this match up.

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I agree, Marquez was too small & Mosley effectively fought to survive after the 7th round. I think this is a dangerous fight for Mayweather. He's often got caught by southpaws early, he'll be rusty & Ortiz is if nothing else a strong starter & will likely come into the ring at over 160lbs. I can certainly see an upset.

I don't really know what to expect out of this one except an overpriced fight.

Ortiz really did put up a (1) stinker against Peterson, who I think is not really that great of a fighter. (2) quit against Maidana. (3) has not had many fights at all on this level

Ortiz has a lot of trouble getting leverage on his punches at range. He likes to throw some tight punches on the inside, but he has almost zero boxing ability on the outside. I can't remember the last boxer I saw get this far without actually knowing how to box and win rounds. If Berto hadn't been rocked so early in that fight, I think he would have had the mental capacity to put Ortiz away. And, somehow, I do not think that Mayweather would be so willing to fight Berto if he had won.

Call me crazy, but I think Berto has a better chance than Ortiz in a fight with Mayweather. But Mayweather has no chance at getting me to be a sucker for one of his so called "fights." Guy is not worth a dime to watch, but through statistics he still keeps all the boxing world at bay. Even at 1 fight every 18 months...
I mean it's just a long enough amount of time to forget about what an awful stinker he put on with his last opponent.

Ortiz fights nothing like Pacquiao, so I would go ahead and say this is not a tuneup for a Pacquiao fight. Don't everyone get your hopes up like that. Ostrich-trunks will let you down at every bend.

Been a long time since I've posted here . . . .

I think this is the best non-Manny fight that Floyd could make at WW. Obviously Martinez would be a better fight and Kahn or Bradley might be too. But this is not bad -- much better than the rumored fight against Spadafora and better than any of Pac's fights since the fight against Cotto (including this joke against a shot JMM that had to work his ass off and get tagged repeatedly against Katsidis at 135).

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Originally Posted by Mar

A-fuc-ingmazing. Five minutes ago ortiz quit against a b fighter at best with no boxing skills in maidana and the whole world was calling him shit and saying he should quit. Next the dude barely survives and gets a draw against peterson, he beats berto and now he can beat floyd ???!!!!! Wow hbo lost pac and they are desperate. If peterson could outbox ortiz floyd sure as shit will. Ortiz will loose damn near every round, and outside of floyd fighting pac or martinez no one should really care.

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Couldn't agree with this more and that's why I think...

1) this fight is a warm up for something bigger

2) completely pointless

3) a way of keeping his name in the pound for pound list a bit longer

4) an easy way to earn a bit of pocket change


I wonder if mayweather will insist on random blood testing. I for one hope so.

Mayweather chose the best available opponent out there at 147 or below and that he hasn't already fought. Bradley and Khan are good fights but not all that much better than Ortiz. At the same time, this isn't a challenging fight for Mayweather because if Lamont Peterson outboxed Victor Ortiz (or boxed with him at a minimum), Mayweather will box circles around him. Mayweather is getting Ortiz at the perfect time after Ortiz is riding high on his win over Berto, but we can't just overlook the fact that he succumbed mentally to Maidana and was outboxed by Peterson. Hopefully, the pay day is worth it for Ortiz because this fight has the potential of ruining him. I see a dejected Ortiz quitting once again on his stool.

My opinion on Manny v. Marquez is that every fighter has their kryptonite and that Manny's kryptonite is Marquez. I believe it will be a good fight that is competitive for the first five rounds. I don't believe the weight will be an issue (I know it's been discussed ad nauseum) because Marquez will come in at 143 and Manny will come in at 147. Marquez was ineffective at 147 against the best fighter on the planet and that doesn't make him ineffective at that weight against other fighters especially against one that he has had a lot of success against in previous fights. Manny will be favored because of his recent form, but the fight is relatively close.

Bottom line: the opponents of Pacquiao and Mayweather won't be ideal until they either fight each other or go for glory and step up in weight to face Martinez.

Mayweather watches his wallet and his 0. This fight isn't a threat to his 0 and it will add padding to his wallet. It's perfect for him. He should go in as as a heavy, heavy favorite.