Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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El Kabong
I believe they'll just try to get Wlad to over commit to a right cross and counter it. Good luck if that's the case.
Avoiding the jab is a key, but avoiding the hook and right cross is the more important issue and the only person to do that is Corrie Sanders.
I must say I am quite interested in how this guy plans to beat Wladimir...if he's out to try and score a UD that's just as ballsy as coming out swinging for the fences from the get go simply because nobody has ever done it or even attempted it.
Im proud of you. You made a post on a topic about David Haye without insulting him! ;D
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
Adam Booth has come up with a few good game plans that weren't expected however thats what made them so good and effective. The Groves fight was a big one! I expect he is coming in this fight with a few game plans and i hope they succeed! He is a smart trainer i expect this to be his best work yet.
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Nameless
I don't think that Manny cares about what Haye will try, it's all about what Wlad has to do in order to keep Haye at bay and to mash him down; piston jabs, when it connects, unload the big hand, Haye gets too close? uppercut or Grab, loop and repeat.
Right, Wlad just needs to keep doing more of what he's been successful doing. Haye's "wishful thinking" fans believe Haye is just going to unload on Wlad like he did that talentless, punching bag, Audley, but it ain't gonna happen.
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Mars_ax
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boxingbantz
According to Adam Booth.
Not come out during the ringwalk? ;D
Na, seriously though and considering he isn't going to outbox Wladm my theory is he's gonna come charging out at the sound of the first bell, like a released animal, giving Wlad absolutely no time to think and start throwing bombs in the hope of securing a very quick knock out. Wlad, obviously, doesn't like pressure but if Adam Booth doesn't thinks Wladimir will not anticipate this, he is very naive.
I don't know about at the opening bell, but chances are Haye will pick his spots, and attempt some bull-rushes, not that it's going to do him any good, Wlad will be ready for it.
Haye figures to have some tricks up his sleeve, but here again, he isn't fighting some lumbering oaf like Valuev, or chumps like Barrett, Ruiz or Audley. Wlad is the best Heavyweight in the world, with advantages in size, skill, experience and devastating HW power, everything that might have worked for Haye before this fight, will fail July 2nd.
Haye is very quick for a HW. He still has a very tall task (literally and figuratively).
When Haye fought Valuev he was able to move out of the way of Valuev's jab and straight right hand and just keep moving. While Wlad isn't as big as Valuev, he is alot bigger than Haye. Wlad's jab is relatively quick and is long. Wlad should be able to catch up to Haye with the jab by the end of round 2. When the jab starts landing, the fight is effectively over.
Haye has to hurt Wlad in the first 2 rounds or I don't see him winning.
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Mars_ax
I don't know about at the opening bell, but chances are Haye will pick his spots, and attempt some bull-rushes, not that it's going to do him any good, Wlad will be ready for it.
Haye figures to have some tricks up his sleeve, but here again, he isn't fighting some lumbering oaf like Valuev, or chumps like Barrett, Ruiz or Audley. Wlad is the best Heavyweight in the world, with advantages in size, skill, experience and devastating HW power, everything that might have worked for Haye before this fight, will fail July 2nd.
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Haye is very quick for a HW. He still has a very tall task (literally and figuratively).
When Haye fought Valuev he was able to move out of the way of Valuev's jab and straight right hand and just keep moving. While Wlad isn't as big as Valuev, he is alot bigger than Haye. Wlad's jab is relatively quick and is long. Wlad should be able to catch up to Haye with the jab by the end of round 2. When the jab starts landing, the fight is effectively over.
Haye has to hurt Wlad in the first 2 rounds or I don't see him winning.
Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans. There was some blithering idiot a few days ago saying that Haye had Valuev "badly hurt" in the final round of their fight. I watched the last round of that fight and all I saw was, Haye's fans and the announcers going berserk & overreacting, and Valuev losing his balance a bit after Haye threw a little left hook that couldn't have crushed a grape. BTW, I never did see where Haye did enough to take Valuez's title away, so as far as i'm concerned, Haye ain't even a HW champion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SISRW7_XS0
So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds. If he tries that bullshit, he's either going to have a heavy jab in his face or get KTFO by a big right hand straight down the pipe. The bottom line, Haye won't be able to KO or hurt Wlad, and he won't be able to outpoint/outbox Wlad if this somehow goes to a decision.
Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Mars_ax
Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans.
So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds.
are you saying haye doesnt have the power to hurt wlad?
Honestly man, i have the power to hurt wlad, you might even have it too :)
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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ninjaspy3
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Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
Mars-
Just because You see it that way doesnt make it fact. And your views on haye seem as warped (negatively) as those of his fans which you accuse. I now hope haye wins because it would be great to see how your reaction after the constant hating.
What's "warped" is the way that Haye has been over-rated and over-hyped by himself and by the Brit media. This isn't about "hate", i'm just being objective about your boy, some of you could use a reality check.
BTW, if it turns out that i'm wrong about Haye, it's no skin off my ass, and it won't be my first "crow buffet". I give my opinion about fights and fighters, and will admit when i'm wrong, i'll be back here July 3rd, to man up and take my medicine. :)
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Mars_ax
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ninjaspy3
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Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
Mars-
Just because You see it that way doesnt make it fact. And your views on haye seem as warped (negatively) as those of his fans which you accuse. I now hope haye wins because it would be great to see how your reaction after the constant hating.
What's "warped" is the way that Haye has been over-rated and over-hyped by himself and by the Brit media. This isn't about "hate", i'm just being objective about your boy, some of could use a reality check.
BTW, if it turns out that i'm wrong about Haye, it's no skin off my ass, and it won't be my first "crow buffet". I give my opinion about fights and fighters, and will admit when i'm wrong, i'll be back here July 3rd, to man up and take my medicine. :)
How much is Lyle paying you? ;D
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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captainanddew
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
I don't know about at the opening bell, but chances are Haye will pick his spots, and attempt some bull-rushes, not that it's going to do him any good, Wlad will be ready for it.
Haye figures to have some tricks up his sleeve, but here again, he isn't fighting some lumbering oaf like Valuev, or chumps like Barrett, Ruiz or Audley. Wlad is the best Heavyweight in the world, with advantages in size, skill, experience and devastating HW power, everything that might have worked for Haye before this fight, will fail July 2nd.
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Haye is very quick for a HW. He still has a very tall task (literally and figuratively).
When Haye fought Valuev he was able to move out of the way of Valuev's jab and straight right hand and just keep moving. While Wlad isn't as big as Valuev, he is alot bigger than Haye. Wlad's jab is relatively quick and is long. Wlad should be able to catch up to Haye with the jab by the end of round 2. When the jab starts landing, the fight is effectively over.
Haye has to hurt Wlad in the first 2 rounds or I don't see him winning.
Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans. There was some blithering idiot a few days ago saying that Haye had Valuev "badly hurt" in the final round of their fight. I watched the last round of that fight and all I saw was, Haye's fans and the announcers going berserk & overreacting, and Valuev losing his balance a bit after Haye threw a little left hook that couldn't have crushed a grape. BTW, I never did see where Haye did enough to take Valuez's title away, so as far as i'm concerned, Haye ain't even a HW champion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SISRW7_XS0
So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds. If he tries that bullshit, he's either going to have a heavy jab in his face or get KTFO by a big right hand straight down the pipe. The bottom line, Haye won't be able to KO or hurt Wlad, and he won't be able to outpoint/outbox Wlad if this somehow goes to a decision.
Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
Oh yeah the chicken dance and Valuev shaking his head to get it straight was definitely just a loss of balance. We have some serious hate going on here.
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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erics44
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Mars_ax
Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans.
So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds.
are you saying haye doesnt have the power to hurt wlad?
Honestly man, i have the power to hurt wlad, you might even have it too :)
I'm not saying that Haye, can't hurt Wlad, i'm saying he won't be able to, he'll be too busy running and getting pummeled to throw many effective punches of his own. These days, Wlad's chin is not nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be, Haye would need to land more then just a few big shots to take Wlad out, and that ain't gonna happen.
And yes, I definately know how to hurt Wlad, just take his Michael Jackson CD's away..:(
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Mars_ax
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captainanddew
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Mars_ax
I don't know about at the opening bell, but chances are Haye will pick his spots, and attempt some bull-rushes, not that it's going to do him any good, Wlad will be ready for it.
Haye figures to have some tricks up his sleeve, but here again, he isn't fighting some lumbering oaf like Valuev, or chumps like Barrett, Ruiz or Audley. Wlad is the best Heavyweight in the world, with advantages in size, skill, experience and devastating HW power, everything that might have worked for Haye before this fight, will fail July 2nd.
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Haye is very quick for a HW. He still has a very tall task (literally and figuratively).
When Haye fought Valuev he was able to move out of the way of Valuev's jab and straight right hand and just keep moving. While Wlad isn't as big as Valuev, he is alot bigger than Haye. Wlad's jab is relatively quick and is long. Wlad should be able to catch up to Haye with the jab by the end of round 2. When the jab starts landing, the fight is effectively over.
Haye has to hurt Wlad in the first 2 rounds or I don't see him winning.
Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans. There was some blithering idiot a few days ago saying that Haye had Valuev "badly hurt" in the final round of their fight. I watched the last round of that fight and all I saw was, Haye's fans and the announcers going berserk & overreacting, and Valuev losing his balance a bit after Haye threw a little left hook that couldn't have crushed a grape. BTW, I never did see where Haye did enough to take Valuez's title away, so as far as i'm concerned, Haye ain't even a HW champion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SISRW7_XS0
So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds. If he tries that bullshit, he's either going to have a heavy jab in his face or get KTFO by a big right hand straight down the pipe. The bottom line, Haye won't be able to KO or hurt Wlad, and he won't be able to outpoint/outbox Wlad if this somehow goes to a decision.
Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
Oh yeah the chicken dance and Valuev shaking his head to get it straight was definitely just a loss of balance. We have some serious hate going on here.
Whatever, I see it differently, calling him briefly off balance, a "chicken dance" is just fucking laughable, as for hate... whatever, is that your best argument?
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
Mars is obviously watching a different haye vs valuev fight to the one he uploaded ;D
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans.
So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds.
are you saying haye doesnt have the power to hurt wlad?
Honestly man, i have the power to hurt wlad, you might even have it too :)
I'm not saying that Haye,
can't hurt Wlad, i'm saying he won't be able to, he'll be too busy running and getting pummeled to throw many effective punches of his own. These days, Wlad's chin is not nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be, Haye would need to land more then just a few big shots to take Wlad out, and that ain't gonna happen.
And yes, I definately know how to hurt Wlad, just take his Michael Jackson CD's away..:(
no you wasnt saying that
you said hayes power is overrated at hw so his power isnt an issue for wlad
make your mind up dude
Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"
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mattboxingfan
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
captainanddew
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
I don't know about at the opening bell, but chances are Haye will pick his spots, and attempt some bull-rushes, not that it's going to do him any good, Wlad will be ready for it.
Haye figures to have some tricks up his sleeve, but here again, he isn't fighting some lumbering oaf like Valuev, or chumps like Barrett, Ruiz or Audley. Wlad is the best Heavyweight in the world, with advantages in size, skill, experience and devastating HW power, everything that might have worked for Haye before this fight, will fail July 2nd.
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Haye is very quick for a HW. He still has a very tall task (literally and figuratively).
When Haye fought Valuev he was able to move out of the way of Valuev's jab and straight right hand and just keep moving. While Wlad isn't as big as Valuev, he is alot bigger than Haye. Wlad's jab is relatively quick and is long. Wlad should be able to catch up to Haye with the jab by the end of round 2. When the jab starts landing, the fight is effectively over.
Haye has to hurt Wlad in the first 2 rounds or I don't see him winning.
Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans. There was some blithering idiot a few days ago saying that Haye had Valuev "badly hurt" in the final round of their fight. I watched the last round of that fight and all I saw was, Haye's fans and the announcers going berserk & overreacting, and Valuev losing his balance a bit after Haye threw a little left hook that couldn't have crushed a grape. BTW, I never did see where Haye did enough to take Valuez's title away, so as far as i'm concerned, Haye ain't even a HW champion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SISRW7_XS0
So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds. If he tries that bullshit, he's either going to have a heavy jab in his face or get KTFO by a big right hand straight down the pipe. The bottom line, Haye won't be able to KO or hurt Wlad, and he won't be able to outpoint/outbox Wlad if this somehow goes to a decision.
Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
Oh yeah the chicken dance and Valuev shaking his head to get it straight was definitely just a loss of balance. We have some serious hate going on here.
Whatever, I see it differently, calling him briefly off balance, a "chicken dance" is just fucking laughable, as for hate... whatever, is that your best argument?
What the hell are you watching? The whole boxing world knows that Valuev was hurt no one slips around like that, he isn't on an ice rink! I'm not trying to make an argument for you to reply to. What would be the point all its going to be is hate for David Haye and i can go read that on the internet without writing a huge essay to continue the argument.
