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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by boxingbantz View Post
    According to Adam Booth.

    Not come out during the ringwalk?

    Na, seriously though and considering he isn't going to outbox Wladm my theory is he's gonna come charging out at the sound of the first bell, like a released animal, giving Wlad absolutely no time to think and start throwing bombs in the hope of securing a very quick knock out. Wlad, obviously, doesn't like pressure but if Adam Booth doesn't thinks Wladimir will not anticipate this, he is very naive.
    I don't know about at the opening bell, but chances are Haye will pick his spots, and attempt some bull-rushes, not that it's going to do him any good, Wlad will be ready for it.
    Haye figures to have some tricks up his sleeve, but here again, he isn't fighting some lumbering oaf like Valuev, or chumps like Barrett, Ruiz or Audley. Wlad is the best Heavyweight in the world, with advantages in size, skill, experience and devastating HW power, everything that might have worked for Haye before this fight, will fail July 2nd.
    Haye is very quick for a HW. He still has a very tall task (literally and figuratively).
    When Haye fought Valuev he was able to move out of the way of Valuev's jab and straight right hand and just keep moving. While Wlad isn't as big as Valuev, he is alot bigger than Haye. Wlad's jab is relatively quick and is long. Wlad should be able to catch up to Haye with the jab by the end of round 2. When the jab starts landing, the fight is effectively over.

    Haye has to hurt Wlad in the first 2 rounds or I don't see him winning.

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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post

    I don't know about at the opening bell, but chances are Haye will pick his spots, and attempt some bull-rushes, not that it's going to do him any good, Wlad will be ready for it.
    Haye figures to have some tricks up his sleeve, but here again, he isn't fighting some lumbering oaf like Valuev, or chumps like Barrett, Ruiz or Audley. Wlad is the best Heavyweight in the world, with advantages in size, skill, experience and devastating HW power, everything that might have worked for Haye before this fight, will fail July 2nd.
    Haye is very quick for a HW. He still has a very tall task (literally and figuratively).
    When Haye fought Valuev he was able to move out of the way of Valuev's jab and straight right hand and just keep moving. While Wlad isn't as big as Valuev, he is alot bigger than Haye. Wlad's jab is relatively quick and is long. Wlad should be able to catch up to Haye with the jab by the end of round 2. When the jab starts landing, the fight is effectively over.

    Haye has to hurt Wlad in the first 2 rounds or I don't see him winning.
    Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans. There was some blithering idiot a few days ago saying that Haye had Valuev "badly hurt" in the final round of their fight. I watched the last round of that fight and all I saw was, Haye's fans and the announcers going berserk & overreacting, and Valuev losing his balance a bit after Haye threw a little left hook that couldn't have crushed a grape. BTW, I never did see where Haye did enough to take Valuez's title away, so as far as i'm concerned, Haye ain't even a HW champion.





    So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds. If he tries that bullshit, he's either going to have a heavy jab in his face or get KTFO by a big right hand straight down the pipe. The bottom line, Haye won't be able to KO or hurt Wlad, and he won't be able to outpoint/outbox Wlad if this somehow goes to a decision.
    Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
    Last edited by Mars_ax; 06-16-2011 at 05:26 AM.

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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans.

    So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds.
    are you saying haye doesnt have the power to hurt wlad?

    Honestly man, i have the power to hurt wlad, you might even have it too
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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans.

    So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds.
    are you saying haye doesnt have the power to hurt wlad?

    Honestly man, i have the power to hurt wlad, you might even have it too

    I'm not saying that Haye, can't hurt Wlad, i'm saying he won't be able to, he'll be too busy running and getting pummeled to throw many effective punches of his own. These days, Wlad's chin is not nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be, Haye would need to land more then just a few big shots to take Wlad out, and that ain't gonna happen.

    And yes, I definately know how to hurt Wlad, just take his Michael Jackson CD's away..

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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans.

    So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds.
    are you saying haye doesnt have the power to hurt wlad?

    Honestly man, i have the power to hurt wlad, you might even have it too

    I'm not saying that Haye, can't hurt Wlad, i'm saying he won't be able to, he'll be too busy running and getting pummeled to throw many effective punches of his own. These days, Wlad's chin is not nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be, Haye would need to land more then just a few big shots to take Wlad out, and that ain't gonna happen.

    And yes, I definately know how to hurt Wlad, just take his Michael Jackson CD's away..
    no you wasnt saying that

    you said hayes power is overrated at hw so his power isnt an issue for wlad

    make your mind up dude
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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans.

    So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds.
    are you saying haye doesnt have the power to hurt wlad?

    Honestly man, i have the power to hurt wlad, you might even have it too

    I'm not saying that Haye, can't hurt Wlad, i'm saying he won't be able to, he'll be too busy running and getting pummeled to throw many effective punches of his own. These days, Wlad's chin is not nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be, Haye would need to land more then just a few big shots to take Wlad out, and that ain't gonna happen.

    And yes, I definately know how to hurt Wlad, just take his Michael Jackson CD's away..
    no you wasnt saying that

    you said hayes power is overrated at hw so his power isnt an issue for wlad

    make your mind up dude
    I'm saying both, Haye's power is overrated at HW and the power he does have, isn't an issue for Wlad because Haye won't be able to use it effectively. You're just nitpicking, is this your best argument? Instead finding "flaws" in my posts, why don't explain why you believe your boyfriend Haye is going to pull off a fucking miracle July 2nd.

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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans.

    So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds.
    are you saying haye doesnt have the power to hurt wlad?

    Honestly man, i have the power to hurt wlad, you might even have it too

    I'm not saying that Haye, can't hurt Wlad, i'm saying he won't be able to, he'll be too busy running and getting pummeled to throw many effective punches of his own. These days, Wlad's chin is not nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be, Haye would need to land more then just a few big shots to take Wlad out, and that ain't gonna happen.

    And yes, I definately know how to hurt Wlad, just take his Michael Jackson CD's away..
    no you wasnt saying that

    you said hayes power is overrated at hw so his power isnt an issue for wlad

    make your mind up dude
    I'm saying both, Haye's power is overrated at HW and the power he does have, isn't an issue for Wlad because Haye won't be able to use it effectively. You're just nitpicking, is this your best argument? Instead finding "flaws" in my posts, why don't explain why you believe your boyfriend Haye is going to pull off a fucking miracle July 2nd.
    are you sure you havent changed your story?

    and i am glad you have asked me that question

    just this moring i have been watching wlads fights on you tube, yes he hasnt been down since peter 1 but every single time without fail that any punch has gone anywhere near his chin he has looked shakey.

    and looking at some of the times he has been Knocked down punches have hardly landed, and looking through his record since peter 1 haye has by far the best combination of power and speed out of all his opponents, by a long long way

    my opinion was always wlad was favourite, but the more i watch him fight the more confident i am of haye winning, in fact i would say its a 50/50 fight now

    p.s. when reading through both our posts on the subject mine are much more objective considering strengths and weeknesses of both fighters whilst yours heavily favour wlads strengths and hayes weeknesses, so if anyones anyones boyfriend i would say you are well loved up in with the big klit, second only to the love struck lyle
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    Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
    Mars-

    Just because You see it that way doesnt make it fact. And your views on haye seem as warped (negatively) as those of his fans which you accuse. I now hope haye wins because it would be great to see how your reaction after the constant hating.

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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
    Mars-

    Just because You see it that way doesnt make it fact. And your views on haye seem as warped (negatively) as those of his fans which you accuse. I now hope haye wins because it would be great to see how your reaction after the constant hating.
    What's "warped" is the way that Haye has been over-rated and over-hyped by himself and by the Brit media. This isn't about "hate", i'm just being objective about your boy, some of you could use a reality check.
    BTW, if it turns out that i'm wrong about Haye, it's no skin off my ass, and it won't be my first "crow buffet". I give my opinion about fights and fighters, and will admit when i'm wrong, i'll be back here July 3rd, to man up and take my medicine.
    Last edited by Mars_ax; 06-16-2011 at 05:19 PM.

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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
    Mars-

    Just because You see it that way doesnt make it fact. And your views on haye seem as warped (negatively) as those of his fans which you accuse. I now hope haye wins because it would be great to see how your reaction after the constant hating.
    What's "warped" is the way that Haye has been over-rated and over-hyped by himself and by the Brit media. This isn't about "hate", i'm just being objective about your boy, some of could use a reality check.
    BTW, if it turns out that i'm wrong about Haye, it's no skin off my ass, and it won't be my first "crow buffet". I give my opinion about fights and fighters, and will admit when i'm wrong, i'll be back here July 3rd, to man up and take my medicine.
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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
    Mars-

    Just because You see it that way doesnt make it fact. And your views on haye seem as warped (negatively) as those of his fans which you accuse. I now hope haye wins because it would be great to see how your reaction after the constant hating.
    What's "warped" is the way that Haye has been over-rated and over-hyped by himself and by the Brit media. This isn't about "hate", i'm just being objective about your boy, some of you could use a reality check.
    BTW, if it turns out that i'm wrong about Haye, it's no skin off my ass, and it won't be my first "crow buffet". I give my opinion about fights and fighters, and will admit when i'm wrong, i'll be back here July 3rd, to man up and take my medicine.
    I don't know if you noticed that Ninja is German? He's hardly getting caught up in a wave of patriotic fervour in that case

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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
    Mars-

    Just because You see it that way doesnt make it fact. And your views on haye seem as warped (negatively) as those of his fans which you accuse. I now hope haye wins because it would be great to see how your reaction after the constant hating.
    What's "warped" is the way that Haye has been over-rated and over-hyped by himself and by the Brit media. This isn't about "hate", i'm just being objective about your boy, some of you could use a reality check.
    BTW, if it turns out that i'm wrong about Haye, it's no skin off my ass, and it won't be my first "crow buffet". I give my opinion about fights and fighters, and will admit when i'm wrong, i'll be back here July 3rd, to man up and take my medicine.
    I don't know if you noticed that Ninja is German? He's hardly getting caught up in a wave of patriotic fervour in that case
    True, but he says he wants Haye to win, that's similar to say, me an American, wanting Pacquiao to defeat Duckweather.

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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    what if Haye comes out as a southpaw to freak out Wlad? I bet he aint countin on THAT kind of trick.

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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    Truth being told, he's going to do what he did against Valuev. If he was scared of his power, i don't see him being gung-ho against Wlad.
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    Default Re: Booth: "I guarantee they cannot predict what David is going to do on 2 July"

    [QUOTE=Mars_ax;982459]
    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post

    I don't know about at the opening bell, but chances are Haye will pick his spots, and attempt some bull-rushes, not that it's going to do him any good, Wlad will be ready for it.
    Haye figures to have some tricks up his sleeve, but here again, he isn't fighting some lumbering oaf like Valuev, or chumps like Barrett, Ruiz or Audley. Wlad is the best Heavyweight in the world, with advantages in size, skill, experience and devastating HW power, everything that might have worked for Haye before this fight, will fail July 2nd.
    Haye is very quick for a HW. He still has a very tall task (literally and figuratively).
    When Haye fought Valuev he was able to move out of the way of Valuev's jab and straight right hand and just keep moving. While Wlad isn't as big as Valuev, he is alot bigger than Haye. Wlad's jab is relatively quick and is long. Wlad should be able to catch up to Haye with the jab by the end of round 2. When the jab starts landing, the fight is effectively over.

    Haye has to hurt Wlad in the first 2 rounds or I don't see him winning.
    Like i've said on other threads Capt, Haye's power @ HW is being overrated by the wishful thinking of his fans. There was some blithering idiot a few days ago saying that Haye had Valuev "badly hurt" in the final round of their fight. I watched the last round of that fight and all I saw was, Haye's fans and the announcers going berserk & overreacting, and Valuev losing his balance a bit after Haye threw a little left hook that couldn't have crushed a grape. BTW, I never did see where Haye did enough to take Valuez's title away, so as far as i'm concerned, Haye ain't even a HW champion.





    So I don't really see Haye's "power" being an issue for Wlad, and I don't see Haye "exploding" or rushing in and hurting Wlad in the first few rounds. If he tries that bullshit, he's either going to have a heavy jab in his face or get KTFO by a big right hand straight down the pipe. The bottom line, Haye won't be able to KO or hurt Wlad, and he won't be able to outpoint/outbox Wlad if this somehow goes to a decision.
    Haye has no heart and no chin and he fights like a fucking amateur. If he somehow survives the first 7 or 8 rounds and doesn't get flattened, he'll quit on his stool from the pounding he takes, like the pussy he really is.
    Oh yeah the chicken dance and Valuev shaking his head to get it straight was definitely just a loss of balance. We have some serious hate going on here.
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