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What I mean is, Haye is young and inexperienced. He's shown a pretty defence against the bigger fighters. If he could learn how to slip a jab and then throw something back, and learn how to throw "punches in bunches" he might become quite formidable.
I think he's got the heart to do it, myself. I don't think he was scared of Wlad. He just saw the writing on the wall.
What I mean is, Haye is young and inexperienced. He's shown a pretty defence against the bigger fighters. If he could learn how to slip a jab and then throw something back, and learn how to throw "punches in bunches" he might become quite formidable.
I think he's got the heart to do it, myself. I don't think he was scared of Wlad. He just saw the writing on the wall early in the fight.
So, when you think a boxer (top 3 or 4 in his division) beats easily someone who does everything starting from the boxing stance WRONG and is in no way top 10 in that division, your considered a fanboy of that boxer. :o
With all due respect Memphis, just telling it like it is, this is the same Haye fanboy who bought into Haye's bullshit about having the "tools" to "kill" the Klitschko bros, now the gullible douche believes that Haye he has all the "tools" to "kill" Arreola... WTF?Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
If anybody needs to have a word with yourselves, it's the dumb fucks that keep swinging on the "Haremakers" nuts & overrating this pretentious clown. :cool:
Sure he can. Size, physical strength, Fighting heart and attitude in the ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by badr_hariI am not a fan of Haye and i said that cuz i think Arreola is sh!t and there isn't one segment in the game where he can match the british guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThats exactly the sort of silly shite that got Haye into something he couldn't stomach.Quote:
Originally Posted by badr_hari
Sorry mate but I dont really see what your driving at so I had a look here to see if it could shed any lightQuote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axWith all due respect Memphis, just telling it like it is, this is the same Haye fanboy who bought into Haye's bullshit about having the "tools" to "kill" the Klitschko bros, now the gullible douche believes that Haye he has all the "tools" to "kill" Arreola... WTF?Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
If anybody needs to have a word with yourselves, it's the dumb fucks that keep swinging on the "Haremakers" nuts & overrating this pretentious clown. :cool:
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post963854
seems all Badr_Hari was doing was following the lead of someone else, Haye's got a chance early, Wlad dodgy chin etc etc
By the way that someone else was you ;)
Are we no longer allowed to think that one guy will beat another without being a nuthugging fanboy?
Haye has got off the floor three times to win, travelled to his opponents backyard for all his major bouts but has no heart after being outclassed by a superior fighter with a massive size advantage.
Deary deary me... some fans.
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Originally Posted by badr_hari
Not if he actually did it. The problem with fanboys is, your adoration for your boyfriend and wishful thinking, blinds you to their flaws. I don't for example see Haye as being a better fighter than Arreola, because so far he hasn't proved it, and furthermore, he's yet to prove that he's an elite level HW.
Sorry. The guy didn't try to win the other day. It's a grave boxing sin in my book. Far greater than getting drilled early but making a legit attempt (which actually isn't a boxing sin at all).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
It's one thing for a mid-level guy just trying to survive to his next payday who is being used as a tuneup. But for a big money championship fight? If you get behind? Hopelssly behind? One MUST change tactics or take risks or amp up the intensity (pick one or combine them) to try to change the course of the fight.
I dont think he's "done" but he really doesn't get a pass on inexperience being a factor. He's a 9yr professional with 4 'major' championships and certainly talked like he had already been to the mount and belonged. I'm not sure he can pocket his shtick and ego long enough to make serious adjustments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Hughey
Marble
Haye gave up in the 5th round
He won round 3, round 4 was even. In the 5th, Wlad landed a couple of good right hands and Haye didn't do anything until round 12.
He was trying to do enough to not be accused of being in survival mode (which he was).
During the 5th round he had a choice, deal with the power coming back at him and try to win the fight or continue to not throw enough punches. He chose the later and his fans have conned themselves into believing he did okay.
He threw less punches than Ibragimov, the guy everyone calls out for running!!!!!
Hey look on the bright side! 13 threw more than he did against Valuev ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddew
He wasn't good enough to change anything. It was nothing to do with his lack of heart. Was he not still trying to win in the 12th?Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiSorry. The guy didn't try to win the other day. It's a grave boxing sin in my book. Far greater than getting drilled early but making a legit attempt (which actually isn't a boxing sin at all).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
It's one thing for a mid-level guy just trying to survive to his next payday who is being used as a tuneup. But for a big money championship fight? If you get behind? Hopelssly behind? One MUST change tactics or take risks or amp up the intensity (pick one or combine them) to try to change the course of the fight.
So if Haye was sparked-out you would have gave him some praise, right? You wouldn't have been gloating about how you told everyone he was a useless shit-cunt that didn't have a chance? Hmmm...
Haye won't fight a worthy opponent like Arreola. After the biggest con in boxing since Mosley fought Pacquiao, Haye will retire. He's not fighting for legacy or glory. He's not even fighting. Two of his five fights at heavyweight were legitimate frauds, and two others were against Valuev and Monte . It's quite unbelievable. He's a much better conman than he is a boxer.
My bad and I apologize to Badr_Hari if he isn't one of Haye's fanboys. It just sounded like he probably was when I read this: "Haye he has all the "tools" to "kill" Arreola", I mean where have we heard that bullshit before. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MemphisSorry mate but I dont really see what your driving at so I had a look here to see if it could shed any lightQuote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axWith all due respect Memphis, just telling it like it is, this is the same Haye fanboy who bought into Haye's bullshit about having the "tools" to "kill" the Klitschko bros, now the gullible douche believes that Haye he has all the "tools" to "kill" Arreola... WTF?Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
If anybody needs to have a word with yourselves, it's the dumb fucks that keep swinging on the "Haremakers" nuts & overrating this pretentious clown. :cool:
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post963854
seems all Badr_Hari was doing was following the lead of someone else, Haye's got a chance early, Wlad dodgy chin etc etc
By the way that someone else was you ;)
Are we no longer allowed to think that one guy will beat another without being a nuthugging fanboy?
Sure you're allowed to think that one guy will beat another without being a called a fanboy, i've just been particularly irked by the way some of Haye's fans were duped by this pretentious sack of shit.