Haye vs. Arreola ?

[Dave Hughey]

What I mean is, Haye is young and inexperienced. He's shown a pretty defence against the bigger fighters. If he could learn how to slip a jab and then throw something back, and learn how to throw "punches in bunches" he might become quite formidable.

I think he's got the heart to do it, myself. I don't think he was scared of Wlad. He just saw the writing on the wall.

[Dave Hughey]

What I mean is, Haye is young and inexperienced. He's shown a pretty defence against the bigger fighters. If he could learn how to slip a jab and then throw something back, and learn how to throw "punches in bunches" he might become quite formidable.

I think he's got the heart to do it, myself. I don't think he was scared of Wlad. He just saw the writing on the wall early in the fight.

[badr_hari]

So, when you think a boxer (top 3 or 4 in his division) beats easily someone who does everything starting from the boxing stance WRONG and is in no way top 10 in that division, your considered a fanboy of that boxer.

[Mars_ax]

This thread is fucking comical.

Two guys have said Haye would beat Arreola, the first one said he likes neither of them yet we get the same "oh typical Haye fanboy" bollocks.

Some of you need to have a serious fucking word with yourselves.

With all due respect Memphis, just telling it like it is, this is the same Haye fanboy who bought into Haye's bullshit about having the "tools" to "kill" the Klitschko bros, now the gullible douche believes that Haye he has all the "tools" to "kill" Arreola... WTF?

If anybody needs to have a word with yourselves, it's the dumb fucks that keep swinging on the "Haremakers" nuts & overrating this pretentious clown.

[marbleheadmaui]

I don't like both guys for more reasons, but if Haye wasn't able to do something nobody in the last 6 years has done against Wladimir doesn't mean he is that crap. He has all the tools to literally kill Arreola in the ring

Thats exactly the sort of silly shite that got Haye into something he couldn't stomach.

I am not a fan of Haye and i said that cuz i think Arreola is sh!t and there isn't one segment in the game where he can match the british guy.

Sure he can. Size, physical strength, Fighting heart and attitude in the ring.

[Memphis]

This thread is fucking comical.

Two guys have said Haye would beat Arreola, the first one said he likes neither of them yet we get the same "oh typical Haye fanboy" bollocks.

Some of you need to have a serious fucking word with yourselves.

With all due respect Memphis, just telling it like it is, this is the same Haye fanboy who bought into Haye's bullshit about having the "tools" to "kill" the Klitschko bros, now the gullible douche believes that Haye he has all the "tools" to "kill" Arreola... WTF?

If anybody needs to have a word with yourselves, it's the dumb fucks that keep swinging on the "Haremakers" nuts & overrating this pretentious clown.

Sorry mate but I dont really see what your driving at so I had a look here to see if it could shed any light

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post963854

seems all Badr_Hari was doing was following the lead of someone else, Haye's got a chance early, Wlad dodgy chin etc etc

By the way that someone else was you



Are we no longer allowed to think that one guy will beat another without being a nuthugging fanboy?

[Fenster]

Haye has got off the floor three times to win, travelled to his opponents backyard for all his major bouts but has no heart after being outclassed by a superior fighter with a massive size advantage.

Deary deary me... some fans.

[Mars_ax]

So, when you think a boxer (top 3 or 4 in his division) beats easily someone who does everything starting from the boxing stance WRONG and is in no way top 10 in that division, your considered a fanboy of that boxer.

Not if he actually did it. The problem with fanboys is, your adoration for your boyfriend and wishful thinking, blinds you to their flaws. I don't for example see Haye as being a better fighter than Arreola, because so far he hasn't proved it, and furthermore, he's yet to prove that he's an elite level HW.

[marbleheadmaui]

Haye has got off the floor three times to win, travelled to his opponents backyard for all his major bouts but has no heart after being outclassed by a superior fighter with a massive size advantage.

Deary deary me... some fans.

Sorry. The guy didn't try to win the other day. It's a grave boxing sin in my book. Far greater than getting drilled early but making a legit attempt (which actually isn't a boxing sin at all).

It's one thing for a mid-level guy just trying to survive to his next payday who is being used as a tuneup. But for a big money championship fight? If you get behind? Hopelssly behind? One MUST change tactics or take risks or amp up the intensity (pick one or combine them) to try to change the course of the fight.

[Spicoli]

What I mean is, Haye is young and inexperienced. He's shown a pretty defence against the bigger fighters. If he could learn how to slip a jab and then throw something back, and learn how to throw "punches in bunches" he might become quite formidable.

I think he's got the heart to do it, myself. I don't think he was scared of Wlad. He just saw the writing on the wall early in the fight.

I dont think he's "done" but he really doesn't get a pass on inexperience being a factor. He's a 9yr professional with 4 'major' championships and certainly talked like he had already been to the mount and belonged. I'm not sure he can pocket his shtick and ego long enough to make serious adjustments.

[captainanddew]

Marble
Haye gave up in the 5th round

He won round 3, round 4 was even. In the 5th, Wlad landed a couple of good right hands and Haye didn't do anything until round 12.

He was trying to do enough to not be accused of being in survival mode (which he was).

During the 5th round he had a choice, deal with the power coming back at him and try to win the fight or continue to not throw enough punches. He chose the later and his fans have conned themselves into believing he did okay.

He threw less punches than Ibragimov, the guy everyone calls out for running!!!!!

[marbleheadmaui]

Marble
Haye gave up in the 5th round

He won round 3, round 4 was even. In the 5th, Wlad landed a couple of good right hands and Haye didn't do anything until round 12.

He was trying to do enough to not be accused of being in survival mode (which he was).

During the 5th round he had a choice, deal with the power coming back at him and try to win the fight or continue to not throw enough punches. He chose the later and his fans have conned themselves into believing he did okay.

He threw less punches than Ibragimov, the guy everyone calls out for running!!!!!

Hey look on the bright side! 13 threw more than he did against Valuev

[Fenster]

Haye has got off the floor three times to win, travelled to his opponents backyard for all his major bouts but has no heart after being outclassed by a superior fighter with a massive size advantage.

Deary deary me... some fans.

Sorry. The guy didn't try to win the other day. It's a grave boxing sin in my book. Far greater than getting drilled early but making a legit attempt (which actually isn't a boxing sin at all).

It's one thing for a mid-level guy just trying to survive to his next payday who is being used as a tuneup. But for a big money championship fight? If you get behind? Hopelssly behind? One MUST change tactics or take risks or amp up the intensity (pick one or combine them) to try to change the course of the fight.

He wasn't good enough to change anything. It was nothing to do with his lack of heart. Was he not still trying to win in the 12th?

So if Haye was sparked-out you would have gave him some praise, right? You wouldn't have been gloating about how you told everyone he was a useless shit-cunt that didn't have a chance? Hmmm...

[Rantcatrat]

Haye won't fight a worthy opponent like Arreola. After the biggest con in boxing since Mosley fought Pacquiao, Haye will retire. He's not fighting for legacy or glory. He's not even fighting. Two of his five fights at heavyweight were legitimate frauds, and two others were against Valuev and Monte . It's quite unbelievable. He's a much better conman than he is a boxer.

[Mars_ax]

This thread is fucking comical.

Two guys have said Haye would beat Arreola, the first one said he likes neither of them yet we get the same "oh typical Haye fanboy" bollocks.

Some of you need to have a serious fucking word with yourselves.

With all due respect Memphis, just telling it like it is, this is the same Haye fanboy who bought into Haye's bullshit about having the "tools" to "kill" the Klitschko bros, now the gullible douche believes that Haye he has all the "tools" to "kill" Arreola... WTF?

If anybody needs to have a word with yourselves, it's the dumb fucks that keep swinging on the "Haremakers" nuts & overrating this pretentious clown.

Sorry mate but I dont really see what your driving at so I had a look here to see if it could shed any light

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post963854

seems all Badr_Hari was doing was following the lead of someone else, Haye's got a chance early, Wlad dodgy chin etc etc

By the way that someone else was you

Are we no longer allowed to think that one guy will beat another without being a nuthugging fanboy?

My bad and I apologize to Badr_Hari if he isn't one of Haye's fanboys. It just sounded like he probably was when I read this: "Haye he has all the "tools" to "kill" Arreola", I mean where have we heard that bullshit before.
Sure you're allowed to think that one guy will beat another without being a called a fanboy, i've just been particularly irked by the way some of Haye's fans were duped by this pretentious sack of shit.