Wow, that is a horrible decision

I watched this fight a second time just now on HBO. And honestly Lara didn't do himself any favors not stepping on the gas, he seemed in the late rounds like he was more or less coasting and throwing one or two left hands cause he could find Williams easy, but the rest of the round he let Paul hold him on the inside and throw punches. And I watch the pucnch stats and see that Williams threw in the 70s and Lara was throwing in the 20s or sometimes 30s. And honestly he didn't do himself any favors letting Williams throw 10 shots whenever they were in close. He'd land the one hard left hand, coast around the outside not doing much till he threw the left again or he'd let Paul get close and work on the inside. Regardless on the bad decision, he didn't do himself any favors by not stepping on the gas and letting Paul get off on on him. I'd like to see a rematch, part of me does part of me doesn't. Part of me says Williams can do better than he did tonight, but then again a part of me says he'll never do better as long as he has his trainer or that this may be all he has left to offer. So I'll have to see him one more time before I decide, but Paul won't have any longevity in the sport if he keeps giving up his height. if he threw the same combinations like he can on the outside he'd last a lot longer in the sport.

OMG, what the fuck is this robbing foreign fighters all the time now?
every damn time a great foreign fighter comes forth with heart skill and courage, they get robbed by american corruption and the networks "golden boy" of the month.
Lara fought a good smart fight and should get the credit he deserves. williams face was hamburger. and im a williams fan!!!

kotelnik, maidana, mathysses & now lara.

Network Corruption is BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!

i enjoy seeing these fighter with heart kick ass, but they should not be treated like this, it's sooooo morally wrong its not funny.

can anything be done??? seriously...

THIS is the problem with the overuse of the word "robbery." it is when a fight like this happens, that really IS one? The term no longer has the same impact.

I had it a lot closer than the HBO team. I had it 7-5 Lara. But I had no round marked close that didn't go to Williams.

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Originally Posted by #1FightFan

OMG, what the fuck is this robbing foreign fighters all the time now?
every damn time a great foreign fighter comes forth with heart skill and courage, they get robbed by american corruption and the networks "golden boy" of the month.
Lara fought a good smart fight and should get the credit he deserves. williams face was hamburger. and im a williams fan!!!

kotelnik, maidana, mathysses & now lara.

Network Corruption is BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!

i enjoy seeing these fighter with heart kick ass, but they should not be treated like this, it's sooooo morally wrong its not funny.

can anything be done??? seriously...

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People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

Have not seen the fight but a lot of people over did it on the Alexander fight that was a close one. I wait to watch before i say anything but people on the board seem to think close fight equals a robbery now.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

Have not seen the fight but a lot of people over did it on the Alexander fight that was a close one. I wait to watch before i say anything but people on the board seem to think close fight equals a robbery now.

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Completely agree. I'll be interested if you think this was competitive.

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Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui

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Originally Posted by #1FightFan

OMG, what the fuck is this robbing foreign fighters all the time now?
every damn time a great foreign fighter comes forth with heart skill and courage, they get robbed by american corruption and the networks "golden boy" of the month.
Lara fought a good smart fight and should get the credit he deserves. williams face was hamburger. and im a williams fan!!!

kotelnik, maidana, mathysses & now lara.

Network Corruption is BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!

i enjoy seeing these fighter with heart kick ass, but they should not be treated like this, it's sooooo morally wrong its not funny.

can anything be done??? seriously...

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People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

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What 'people'?

Are you delusional ???

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Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui

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Originally Posted by #1FightFan

OMG, what the fuck is this robbing foreign fighters all the time now?
every damn time a great foreign fighter comes forth with heart skill and courage, they get robbed by american corruption and the networks "golden boy" of the month.
Lara fought a good smart fight and should get the credit he deserves. williams face was hamburger. and im a williams fan!!!

kotelnik, maidana, mathysses & now lara.

Network Corruption is BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!

i enjoy seeing these fighter with heart kick ass, but they should not be treated like this, it's sooooo morally wrong its not funny.

can anything be done??? seriously...

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People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.

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What 'people'?

Are you delusional ???

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Well the poster I quoted for one, folks from various forumns I visit after fights to see what is being written.

I don't think I'm delusional...but I could be. After all I think you're a worthwhile poster ;)

I am quite disappointed by the decision and I would really love to have been ring side to understand what the judges did see. Corruption is a possibility but sometimes I wonder if throwing a huge volume of punches might help more than what we think into getting the judges favor.

Listening to Williams at the end of the fight, I don't he was convinced he won that fight. Maybe he thought it was close?

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

Listening to Williams at the end of the fight, I don't he was convinced he won that fight. Maybe he thought it was close?

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you are right:)

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Paul Williams is Al Haymon's boy.

That's pretty much it.

In a way I dislike this decision for Paul's sake. He's such a warrior. Not a smart fighter. Clueless trainer. But he's what's right about boxing in a sense and bad decisions almost always result in a backlash against the fighter who received that decision and Paul doesn't deserve that.

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Right on the money. Robberies always garner hatred towards the benefactor (and sympathy for the loser) like he had something to do with it. Paul is a true warrior and had been great for boxing, it's a shame to see him get tarnished like this, especially after such a brutal loss.

I had it 9-3 for Lara. I can see slightly closer scores, but in no way can I see how Williams won that fight. Max Kellerman put it well when he said it was indescribably bad. Just awful.

DEAR DEAR ME. I've never been so baffled after a fight when the decision got called. Almost just as baffling was Williams believing he won after in the interview.

I really like Williams, but Lara fought fantastic.

I had it 10-2 for Lara. He completely outboxed Williams and countered him all night over the top with the left hand. Lara's footwork was tremendous !

It was good to see Max tell the truth about that horrible decision. But, it wasn't incompetence or stupidity that caused that decision.

It was clearly CORRUPTION.