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    Default Re: Wow, that is a horrible decision

    OMG, what the fuck is this robbing foreign fighters all the time now?
    every damn time a great foreign fighter comes forth with heart skill and courage, they get robbed by american corruption and the networks "golden boy" of the month.
    Lara fought a good smart fight and should get the credit he deserves. williams face was hamburger. and im a williams fan!!!

    kotelnik, maidana, mathysses & now lara.

    Network Corruption is BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!

    i enjoy seeing these fighter with heart kick ass, but they should not be treated like this, it's sooooo morally wrong its not funny.

    can anything be done seriously...

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    Default Re: Wow, that is a horrible decision

    Quote Originally Posted by #1FightFan View Post
    OMG, what the fuck is this robbing foreign fighters all the time now?
    every damn time a great foreign fighter comes forth with heart skill and courage, they get robbed by american corruption and the networks "golden boy" of the month.
    Lara fought a good smart fight and should get the credit he deserves. williams face was hamburger. and im a williams fan!!!

    kotelnik, maidana, mathysses & now lara.

    Network Corruption is BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!

    i enjoy seeing these fighter with heart kick ass, but they should not be treated like this, it's sooooo morally wrong its not funny.

    can anything be done seriously...
    People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

    Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.
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    Default Re: Wow, that is a horrible decision

    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by #1FightFan View Post
    OMG, what the fuck is this robbing foreign fighters all the time now?
    every damn time a great foreign fighter comes forth with heart skill and courage, they get robbed by american corruption and the networks "golden boy" of the month.
    Lara fought a good smart fight and should get the credit he deserves. williams face was hamburger. and im a williams fan!!!

    kotelnik, maidana, mathysses & now lara.

    Network Corruption is BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!

    i enjoy seeing these fighter with heart kick ass, but they should not be treated like this, it's sooooo morally wrong its not funny.

    can anything be done seriously...
    People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

    Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.
    What 'people'?

    Are you delusional
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    Default Re: Wow, that is a horrible decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by #1FightFan View Post
    OMG, what the fuck is this robbing foreign fighters all the time now?
    every damn time a great foreign fighter comes forth with heart skill and courage, they get robbed by american corruption and the networks "golden boy" of the month.
    Lara fought a good smart fight and should get the credit he deserves. williams face was hamburger. and im a williams fan!!!

    kotelnik, maidana, mathysses & now lara.

    Network Corruption is BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!

    i enjoy seeing these fighter with heart kick ass, but they should not be treated like this, it's sooooo morally wrong its not funny.

    can anything be done seriously...
    People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

    Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.
    What 'people'?

    Are you delusional
    Well the poster I quoted for one, folks from various forumns I visit after fights to see what is being written.

    I don't think I'm delusional...but I could be. After all I think you're a worthwhile poster
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    Default Re: Wow, that is a horrible decision

    I am quite disappointed by the decision and I would really love to have been ring side to understand what the judges did see. Corruption is a possibility but sometimes I wonder if throwing a huge volume of punches might help more than what we think into getting the judges favor.
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    Default Re: Wow, that is a horrible decision

    Listening to Williams at the end of the fight, I don't he was convinced he won that fight. Maybe he thought it was close?

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    Default Re: Wow, that is a horrible decision

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Listening to Williams at the end of the fight, I don't he was convinced he won that fight. Maybe he thought it was close?
    you are right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    I am quite disappointed by the decision and I would really love to have been ring side to understand what the judges did see. Corruption is a possibility but sometimes I wonder if throwing a huge volume of punches might help more than what we think into getting the judges favor.
    Often I guess that's the case. What was unusual here is that sheer visibility of the Lara punches. Williams head was being hurtled all over the place. I don't think things could have been more clear on his side.
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    I'm waiting for the 3:30 replay as I only caught the last half last night. Physically and as far as body language Williams looked like that piƱata getting hit repeatedly with the whiffle ball bat by that kid in the Geiko commercial.

    I'm also wishing more and more we could return to the days on maybe 1 or 2 guys only on the fight call. Way to many talking heads wagging their tongues just to be heard. I'd be GREAT if only the crowd could be heard.

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    Default Re: Wow, that is a horrible decision

    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

    Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.
    I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

    I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

    Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

    Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.
    I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

    I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

    Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.
    Sorry but how the fuck did you have Matthysse WINNING against Judah and LOSING to Alexander ?

    He put on a much more impressive performance against Alexander than he did against Judah.

    And in my opinion if a fight is close in rounds, but still a CLEAR victory for one fighter and he doesn't get the decision, then its still a robbery.

    If a guy clearly wins 7 rounds and there is no doubt about it, no bickering over those 7, and the judges end up giving it to the other guy, especially with a knockdown involved, then that is still a robbery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

    Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.
    I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

    I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

    Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.
    Sorry but how the fuck did you have Matthysse WINNING against Judah and LOSING to Alexander ?

    He put on a much more impressive performance against Alexander than he did against Judah.

    And in my opinion if a fight is close in rounds, but still a CLEAR victory for one fighter and he doesn't get the decision, then its still a robbery.

    If a guy clearly wins 7 rounds and there is no doubt about it, no bickering over those 7, and the judges end up giving it to the other guy, especially with a knockdown involved, then that is still a robbery.
    Check out that thread & you can read my scorecard

    Maybe you felt he was more impressive against Alexander, but I felt they were similar performances (Matthysse not doing enough to quite take rounds for me early & mid) & in the Judah fight, he had two extra rounds to play with, which allowed him to pull out the win for me.

    All those fights mentioned had enough close rounds that it could be disputed. I know that you're one of those who sees robberies every week, so you obviously won't agree with it

    *Having slept, I came back to this & I will say I agree that if one fighter CLEARLY wins 7 rounds it's a robbery. However, in all those cases mentioned, I think that their were disputable rounds. A fight that I remember thinking one guy clearly won 7 rounds was the first Funeka-Guzman fight.
    Last edited by JazMerkin; 07-11-2011 at 12:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

    Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.
    I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

    I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

    Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.
    Sorry but how the fuck did you have Matthysse WINNING against Judah and LOSING to Alexander ?

    He put on a much more impressive performance against Alexander than he did against Judah.

    And in my opinion if a fight is close in rounds, but still a CLEAR victory for one fighter and he doesn't get the decision, then its still a robbery.

    If a guy clearly wins 7 rounds and there is no doubt about it, no bickering over those 7, and the judges end up giving it to the other guy, especially with a knockdown involved, then that is still a robbery.
    Check out that thread & you can read my scorecard

    Maybe you felt he was more impressive against Alexander, but I felt they were similar performances (Matthysse not doing enough to quite take rounds for me early & mid) & in the Judah fight, he had two extra rounds to play with, which allowed him to pull out the win for me.

    All those fights mentioned had enough close rounds that it could be disputed. I know that you're one of those who sees robberies every week, so you obviously won't agree with it
    Maybe not a robbery but i really fail to see how Devon Alexander could of won, he was knocked down. Was hurt the most through the entire fight, he wasn't the aggressor, and he was outworked by the stronger fighter.

    Devon Alexander pretty much lost almost every single round after the 4th round, including a knockdown against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

    Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.
    I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

    I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

    Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.
    Sorry but how the fuck did you have Matthysse WINNING against Judah and LOSING to Alexander ?

    He put on a much more impressive performance against Alexander than he did against Judah.

    And in my opinion if a fight is close in rounds, but still a CLEAR victory for one fighter and he doesn't get the decision, then its still a robbery.

    If a guy clearly wins 7 rounds and there is no doubt about it, no bickering over those 7, and the judges end up giving it to the other guy, especially with a knockdown involved, then that is still a robbery.
    Check out that thread & you can read my scorecard

    Maybe you felt he was more impressive against Alexander, but I felt they were similar performances (Matthysse not doing enough to quite take rounds for me early & mid) & in the Judah fight, he had two extra rounds to play with, which allowed him to pull out the win for me.

    All those fights mentioned had enough close rounds that it could be disputed. I know that you're one of those who sees robberies every week, so you obviously won't agree with it
    Maybe not a robbery but i really fail to see how Devon Alexander could of won, he was knocked down. Was hurt the most through the entire fight, he wasn't the aggressor, and he was outworked by the stronger fighter.

    Devon Alexander pretty much lost almost every single round after the 4th round, including a knockdown against him.
    Like I said, I'm not really planning to discuss that fight, I'm too busy being pissed off about this one. I was in the US watching it with no access to boxing sites & I saw it on 3 separate occasions & had it the same each time. I know my scorecard was 95-94 Alexander, but offhand can't remember the exact rounds. I'd also have had no issue with Matthysse winning, I wanted him to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    People who cried robbery in the Matthysse, Maidana and Kotelnik fights are part of the problem. Those were close fights.

    Now when a fight is literally stolen, like tonight? People dismiss it because they've heard the term "robbery" far too often.
    I completely agree with this. I'm also wondering what fight Maidana was robbed in

    I thought Matthysse won against Judah & lost to Alexander & Kotelnik just nicked it in St. Louis. However, I could see all of those going to the eventual winner & in one case I clearly did.

    Tonight was a flat out disgrace & I can't believe there is no more anger over this. It's been a while since I heard the scorecards & genuinely believed for a short while that the announcer has accidentally read out the wrong guy.
    Sorry but how the fuck did you have Matthysse WINNING against Judah and LOSING to Alexander ?

    He put on a much more impressive performance against Alexander than he did against Judah.

    And in my opinion if a fight is close in rounds, but still a CLEAR victory for one fighter and he doesn't get the decision, then its still a robbery.

    If a guy clearly wins 7 rounds and there is no doubt about it, no bickering over those 7, and the judges end up giving it to the other guy, especially with a knockdown involved, then that is still a robbery.
    I agree 100%. A fight doesn't have to be an apparent blowout to be a robbery. As long as one fighter clearly deserved to win and did not, I think it's fair to call it a robbery.

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