Re: Bradley not stripped from title but has the very new title of "champion in recess
Meh, don't really disagree with Bilbo on this, especially if the accounts of Bradley basically pricing himself out of a Khan fight are true. Its trendy to rag on the alphabet gangs of course and often with good reason, but inactive champions certainly hurt the sport more. I like Bradley enough but he doesn`t have superstar ability and basically needs to fight more often if he wants to preserve the things he does have going for him.
Re: Bradley not stripped from title but has the very new title of "champion in recess
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Meh, don't really disagree with Bilbo on this, especially if the accounts of Bradley basically pricing himself out of a Khan fight are true. Its trendy to rag on the alphabet gangs of course and often with good reason, but inactive champions certainly hurt the sport more. I like Bradley enough but he doesn`t have superstar ability and basically needs to fight more often if he wants to preserve the things he does have going for him.
I don't understand what people are whining about half the time mate, they are never happy. No opponent is good enough, no belt is credible enough blah blah.
We have two options.
1)Bradley keeps the title, takes the year off and there is no WBC title fight this summer/autumn.
2) As he refused to defend his belt the WBC move on and match two of the most exciting fighters in the division in what will likely be a great slugfest. Then Bradley is given the right as 'champion in recess' to fight the winner and get his belt back.
So we get a nice title fight between two exciting stars, the WBC make some money, and Bradley gets to win his belt back when he decides to fight again.
Sounds like simple common sense to me.
Re: Bradley not stripped from title but has the very new title of "champion in recess
Yea good point. Im sure Bradley himself didnt object to this, but leave it to everyone else to scream about it. Long as he doesnt seem to want to fight Khan or anyone else why not wait it out for a much easier payday. I figure people just dont really think about the way it will actually affect the involved fighters. Bradley knows he`ll never be a huge star and so his next couple of paydays will likely dictate the rest of his life financially, why the hell wouldnt he want a chance to win back his title from an ancient Morales or a crude puncher instead of putting all his chips in against Khan who is going to be around for a while.
Re: Bradley not stripped from title but has the very new title of "champion in recess
I don't care if they strip him. Its the comical recess bit that is absurd.
Re: Bradley not stripped from title but has the very new title of "champion in recess
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I don't care if they strip him. Its the comical recess bit that is absurd.
It's just a way of ensuring he gets the first shot at the champion, he is the recognised opponent they must face which is fair enough.
They deal in belts the way a lawyer might deal with wills and certificates. He now has an official status as challenger on account of his recess status. It's no different from them signing a certificate really, they just do it with blets because that's the currency they deal in. The UFC does it, all combat sport organisations do it. It's really no biggie.
Re: Bradley not stripped from title but has the very new title of "champion in recess
The reality is that Khan will now fight for WBC strap against Morales or who ever beats him and move to 147lb welterweight without fighting Bradley who really is the best fighter at the weight. That is wrong and perverse, if the WBC are a not for profit making organisation they should not grant them the title but next leading contender to fight Bradley. Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap. Bradley is the best fighter at the weight and he can only lose that in the ring or inactivity which must be longer than a year at least.
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The reality is that Khan will now fight for WBC strap against Morales or who ever beats him and move to 147lb welterweight without fighting Bradley who really is the best fighter at the weight. That is wrong and perverse, if the WBC are a not for profit making organisation they should not grant them the title but next leading contender to fight Bradley. Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap. Bradley is the best fighter at the weight and he can only lose that in the ring or inactivity which must be longer than a year at least.
Now you are moaning about a fight that hasn't even been arranged yet :rolleyes:
You people are unbelievable.
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The reality is that Khan will now fight for WBC strap against Morales or who ever beats him and move to 147lb welterweight without fighting Bradley who really is the best fighter at the weight. That is wrong and perverse, if the WBC are a not for profit making organisation they should not grant them the title but next leading contender to fight Bradley. Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap. Bradley is the best fighter at the weight and he can only lose that in the ring or inactivity which must be longer than a year at least.
What are you whinging about? Amir Khan is somehow getting the WBC to strip Bradley so he can avoid fighting him, even though he offered a 50-50 split on everything when Bradley had the belt?
That has to be the stupidest thing you've ever posted.
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Bilbo has become the defender of the alphabet belts!
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The reality is that Khan will now fight for WBC strap against Morales or who ever beats him and move to 147lb welterweight without fighting Bradley who really is the best fighter at the weight. That is wrong and perverse, if the WBC are a not for profit making organisation they should not grant them the title but next leading contender to fight Bradley. Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap. Bradley is the best fighter at the weight and he can only lose that in the ring or inactivity which must be longer than a year at least.
What are you whinging about? Amir Khan is somehow getting the WBC to strip Bradley so he can avoid fighting him, even though he offered a 50-50 split on everything when Bradley had the belt?
That has to be the stupidest thing you've ever posted.
No doubt Amir wants the fight but Bradley wants to leave his promoter and is getting sued in the process by him. Bradley should not be stripped or lose his status as the best at the weight.
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The reality is that Khan will now fight for WBC strap against Morales or who ever beats him and move to 147lb welterweight without fighting Bradley who really is the best fighter at the weight. That is wrong and perverse, if the WBC are a not for profit making organisation they should not grant them the title but next leading contender to fight Bradley. Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap. Bradley is the best fighter at the weight and he can only lose that in the ring or inactivity which must be longer than a year at least.
What are you whinging about? Amir Khan is somehow getting the WBC to strip Bradley so he can avoid fighting him, even though he offered a 50-50 split on everything when Bradley had the belt?
That has to be the stupidest thing you've ever posted.
No doubt Amir wants the fight but Bradley wants to leave his promoter and is getting sued in the process by him. Bradley should not be stripped or lose his status as the best at the weight.
Bradley was offered a one fight extension with Shaw in order that Shaw could promote the Khan fight & then Bradley would have been a free agent. I agree Bradley should not be stripped, but if he continues to not fight, then Khan should rightfully take over as the best at the weight. In 2010 & 2011, Bradley has fought just twice against Abregu (at 147) & Alexander, the latter of which was a dull not particularly defining win. In that same time, Khan has fought Malignaggi, Maidana, McCloskey & Judah, all of whom were ranked in the top 10 at 140.
But, ignoring all that, insinuating that Amir Khan has enough control of the WBC that he's had Tim Bradley stripped of the title is the stupidest thing you've ever posted. Well, apart from a thread I heard you posted yesterday ;)
Re: Bradley not stripped from title but has the very new title of "champion in recess
My thread that you mentioned should be treated like Rocky 5, it never happened nor should anyone remember it.
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The reality is that Khan will now fight for WBC strap against Morales or who ever beats him and move to 147lb welterweight without fighting Bradley who really is the best fighter at the weight. That is wrong and perverse, if the WBC are a not for profit making organisation they should not grant them the title but next leading contender to fight Bradley. Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap. Bradley is the best fighter at the weight and he can only lose that in the ring or inactivity which must be longer than a year at least.
What are you whinging about? Amir Khan is somehow getting the WBC to strip Bradley so he can avoid fighting him, even though he offered a 50-50 split on everything when Bradley had the belt?
That has to be the stupidest thing you've ever posted.
No doubt Amir wants the fight but Bradley wants to leave his promoter and is getting sued in the process by him. Bradley should not be stripped or lose his status as the best at the weight.
Bradley was offered a one fight extension with Shaw in order that Shaw could promote the Khan fight & then Bradley would have been a free agent. I agree Bradley should not be stripped, but if he continues to not fight, then Khan should rightfully take over as the best at the weight. In 2010 & 2011, Bradley has fought just twice against Abregu (at 147) & Alexander, the latter of which was a dull not particularly defining win. In that same time, Khan has fought Malignaggi, Maidana, McCloskey & Judah, all of whom were ranked in the top 10 at 140.
But, ignoring all that, insinuating that Amir Khan has enough control of the WBC that he's had Tim Bradley stripped of the title is the stupidest thing you've ever posted. Well, apart from a thread I heard you posted yesterday ;)
You are twisting my words, the WBC want a Mexican champion creating a legacy and more money with Amir as is in the first defence.
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You are twisting my words, the WBC want a Mexican champion creating a legacy and more money with Amir as is in the first defence
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Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap..
Your own words. You twisted them all on your own. Read that & tell me it's not someone saying that Amir Khan is forcing the WBC to strip their champion for him.
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You are twisting my words, the WBC want a Mexican champion creating a legacy and more money with Amir as is in the first defence
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Master
Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap..
Your own words. You twisted them all on your own. Read that & tell me it's not someone saying that Amir Khan is forcing the WBC to strip their champion for him.
You should be a lawyer. :)
