Re: Since Pavlik isn't fighting Bute - what do you guys think of Quillin or Pirog?
Pirog is at 160 and as another poster pointed out, he isn't the biggest guy. He is over 30 years old and is still able to make 160. Bute is at 168 but began his career fighting as high as 173. He would have a distinct size advantage against Pirog in my opinion.
I love Quillen but I think Quillen needs to face someone in the lower top 10/right outside the top 10 before jumping right in with one of the big dogs.
Re: Since Pavlik isn't fighting Bute - what do you guys think of Quillin or Pirog?
Bute's people are apparently in serious discussions to fight one of the Dirrell brothers. http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/1...ing-considered
With Kessler, Pavlik, Froch, and Ward all out as opponents, Andre Dirrell (who I think beat Froch by 2-3 rounds) is definitely the best opponent out there, though he'll need a tune-up first. If that happens, then it would seem that they couldn't make the fight until a time that the Super Six winner would be available anyway.
I guess he could fight Anthony Dirrell sooner (no need for a tune-up) but I'm way less interested in seeing that.
Re: Since Pavlik isn't fighting Bute - what do you guys think of Quillin or Pirog?
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Bute's people are apparently in serious discussions to fight one of the Dirrell brothers.
Bute versus one of the Dirrell brothers being considered | RingTV
With Kessler, Pavlik, Froch, and Ward all out as opponents, Andre Dirrell (who I think beat Froch by 2-3 rounds) is definitely the best opponent out there, though he'll need a tune-up first. If that happens, then it would seem that they couldn't make the fight until a time that the Super Six winner would be available anyway.
I guess he could fight Anthony Dirrell sooner (no need for a tune-up) but I'm way less interested in seeing that.
Yea, I mean I just don't know the other options that are available. After the four you mentioned, Quillen opted to stay at 160, Pirog is MIA, basically there is Glen Johnson, Anthony Dirrell, and that's it. I can't really think of anyone else. Bilbo likes Groves, but I doubt Groves' people put him in there with Bute now.
Re: Since Pavlik isn't fighting Bute - what do you guys think of Quillin or Pirog?
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shza
Bute's people are apparently in serious discussions to fight one of the Dirrell brothers.
Bute versus one of the Dirrell brothers being considered | RingTV
With Kessler, Pavlik, Froch, and Ward all out as opponents, Andre Dirrell (who I think beat Froch by 2-3 rounds) is definitely the best opponent out there, though he'll need a tune-up first. If that happens, then it would seem that they couldn't make the fight until a time that the Super Six winner would be available anyway.
I guess he could fight Anthony Dirrell sooner (no need for a tune-up) but I'm way less interested in seeing that.
Yea, I mean I just don't know the other options that are available. After the four you mentioned, Quillen opted to stay at 160, Pirog is MIA, basically there is Glen Johnson, Anthony Dirrell, and that's it. I can't really think of anyone else. Bilbo likes Groves, but I doubt Groves' people put him in there with Bute now.
Bute should go up to 175 for a big fight.
He turned pro in 2003, and during 2003, 2004, and his first fight during 2005, he weighed between 170 and 175. It appeared to me when I noticed it on boxrec a while ago that he was a LH who likely moved down when his team figured out he would be bigger than most of the good fighters at 168.
I think that he should have gone up to 175 for a fight instead of treading water as he fought B/C level competition over the last few years (while just waiting for the super 6 winner).
Re: Since Pavlik isn't fighting Bute - what do you guys think of Quillin or Pirog?
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Rantcatrat
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shza
Bute's people are apparently in serious discussions to fight one of the Dirrell brothers.
Bute versus one of the Dirrell brothers being considered | RingTV
With Kessler, Pavlik, Froch, and Ward all out as opponents, Andre Dirrell (who I think beat Froch by 2-3 rounds) is definitely the best opponent out there, though he'll need a tune-up first. If that happens, then it would seem that they couldn't make the fight until a time that the Super Six winner would be available anyway.
I guess he could fight Anthony Dirrell sooner (no need for a tune-up) but I'm way less interested in seeing that.
Yea, I mean I just don't know the other options that are available. After the four you mentioned, Quillen opted to stay at 160, Pirog is MIA, basically there is Glen Johnson, Anthony Dirrell, and that's it. I can't really think of anyone else. Bilbo likes Groves, but I doubt Groves' people put him in there with Bute now.
Bute should go up to 175 for a big fight.
He turned pro in 2003, and during 2003, 2004, and his first fight during 2005, he weighed between 170 and 175. It appeared to me when I noticed it on boxrec a while ago that he was a LH who likely moved down when his team figured out he would be bigger than most of the good fighters at 168.
I think that he should have gone up to 175 for a fight instead of treading water as he fought B/C level competition over the last few years (while just waiting for the super 6 winner).
You nver know what will happen, but here they are saying Tavoris Cloud.
Re: Since Pavlik isn't fighting Bute - what do you guys think of Quillin or Pirog?
I would love to see Cloud versus Bute! That would be an all action fight. I know Cloud is with Don King, which is never a good thing but that fight makes a lot of sense for both guys and is much more compelling than BHop-Dawson, Pascal-Bute, Bute-Johnson. I agree that neither Pirog nor Quillen wants to fight a big super middle.
Re: Since Pavlik isn't fighting Bute - what do you guys think of Quillin or Pirog?
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I would love to see Cloud versus Bute! That would be an all action fight. I know Cloud is with Don King, which is never a good thing but that fight makes a lot of sense for both guys and is much more compelling than BHop-Dawson, Pascal-Bute, Bute-Johnson. I agree that neither Pirog nor Quillen wants to fight a big super middle.
Just after I posted that I heard he was sticking to 168 and isn't ready to move up. I want to see him versus Froch. That would be a scrap.
