Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....
Only in the wasteland that is the heavyweight division is a boxer ready for a fight against two great champions after only 16 fights.
Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....
dudes, are u serious?
Helenius would destroy arreola.
look up a few of Helenius KO's on youtube!
arreola would get beat worse than liakhovich.
Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....
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CFH
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CutMeMick
HA!!! ;D
Helenius has become the flavor of the month already...
You do realize all he did was beat a former WBO title holder who at his best was average and today is no where near top 5 level.
Both Wladdy & Vitaly would beat this guy.
I would even go on record and say Adamek beats Helenius via TKO.
I agree with everything except the Adamek part. He's not TKOing anyone as a heavyweight.
I know I kind of wanted to go along the lines of this thread and post something a bit radical. :p
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CFH
Only in the wasteland that is the heavyweight division is a boxer ready for a fight against two great champions after only 16 fights.
:highfive:
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#1FightFan
dudes, are u serious?
Helenius would destroy arreola.
look up a few of Helenius KO's on youtube!
arreola would get beat worse than liakhovich.
I don't need to look up youtube videos.
I've seen his last 6 fights complete.
He's beaten former champs which is good.
But until he starts fighting top 10 contenders we really don't know.
I'd like to see him vs. Arreola, Haye or even Dimetrenko to see how he can handle a top contender...
Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....
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CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by
CFH
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
HA!!! ;D
Helenius has become the flavor of the month already...
You do realize all he did was beat a former WBO title holder who at his best was average and today is no where near top 5 level.
Both Wladdy & Vitaly would beat this guy.
I would even go on record and say Adamek beats Helenius via TKO.
I agree with everything except the Adamek part. He's not TKOing anyone as a heavyweight.
I know I kind of wanted to go along the lines of this thread and post something a bit radical. :p
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Originally Posted by
CFH
Only in the wasteland that is the heavyweight division is a boxer ready for a fight against two great champions after only 16 fights.
:highfive:
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Originally Posted by
#1FightFan
dudes, are u serious?
Helenius would destroy arreola.
look up a few of Helenius KO's on youtube!
arreola would get beat worse than liakhovich.
I don't need to look up youtube videos.
I've seen his last 6 fights complete.
He's beaten former champs which is good.
But until he starts fighting top 10 contenders we really don't know.
I'd like to see him vs. Arreola, Haye or even Dimetrenko to see how he can handle a top contender...
I agree. Honestly, I'd like to see him have at least 3 or 4 fights against steadily increasing opposition before I even hear of him thinking about the Klits. He's too green.
Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....
I got it!
How about Helenius vs. Amin Monsour guy who went the distance vs. Guinn last week or 2 weeks ago?
Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....
I'm wasn't to impresses with him. I had him losing the fight up to the stoppage. And that's against an old, inactive Liakhovich. His other big win was against a shot Peter. Really he hasn't beaten anyone good who wasn't shot. I think Arreola destroys his clumsy looking ass
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Violent Demise
I'm wasn't to impresses with him. I had him losing the fight up to the stoppage. And that's against an old, inactive Liakhovich. His other big win was against a shot Peter. Really he hasn't beaten anyone good who wasn't shot. I think Arreola destroys his clumsy looking ass
I'm with you, mick & cfh. The guy has to fight a live opponent before w can really make a call on him. I too think Arreola stops him!
Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....
i only saw a few good clips so i really dont know either. but what i did see was some good power and fast movement for such a big guy. u gotta admit though, those combos landed on liakhovich were hard. u think wlad's glass jaw could take that uppercutt??? i doubt it.
for only 16 fights, and having taken out former champions impressively, its safe to say if he gets even a little better...he could be a threat to the Klits. A few more fights away of course.
and arreola sucks! i bet even an old holyfield would whupp him.
Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....
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#1FightFan
i only saw a few good clips so i really dont know either. but what i did see was some good power and fast movement for such a big guy. u gotta admit though, those combos landed on liakhovich were hard. u think wlad's glass jaw could take that uppercutt??? i doubt it.
for only 16 fights, and having taken out former champions impressively, its safe to say if he gets even a little better...he could be a threat to the Klits. A few more fights away of course.
and arreola sucks! i bet even an old holyfield would whupp him.
I think everyone agrees with you that he had potential but it's stol early days & he hadn't really been tested, say what you want about Arreola but he has heart & pop & you'd have to admit it would be a god scrap
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Galaxy
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Violent Demise
I'm wasn't to impresses with him. I had him losing the fight up to the stoppage. And that's against an old, inactive Liakhovich. His other big win was against a shot Peter. Really he hasn't beaten anyone good who wasn't shot. I think Arreola destroys his clumsy looking ass
I'm with you, mick & cfh. The guy has to fight a live opponent before w can really make a call on him. I too think Arreola stops him!
If he gets hit by Arreola like he got hit by Liakhovich, Helenius will be on his ass in a hurry.
Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....
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Originally Posted by
#1FightFan
i only saw a few good clips so i really dont know either. but what i did see was some good power and fast movement for such a big guy. u gotta admit though, those combos landed on liakhovich were hard. u think wlad's glass jaw could take that uppercutt??? i doubt it.
for only 16 fights, and having taken out former champions impressively, its safe to say if he gets even a little better...he could be a threat to the Klits. A few more fights away of course.
and arreola sucks! i bet even an old holyfield would whupp him.
Right now, all Helenius has is potential. He does some things well, but he's going to need to work on his deficiencies before he's a threat to someone like Wlad.
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CFH
Only in the wasteland that is the heavyweight division is a boxer ready for a fight against two great champions after only 16 fights.
Bingo! That's a huge problem with the division today. It's almost completely void of mid level contenders or quality journeymen, making it really hard to actually have a prospect progress properly. The networks are so starved for new blood that they'll rush anyone who isn't complete garbage into a title fight. You could take all kinds of great HW's and figure that either Klitschko would have beaten them badly at the prospect stage of their careers. I'm not sure Wlad is really a GREAT heavy, but he's not losing to somebody with 15 fights, even if that someone is a lot more talented than Helenius.
Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....
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Galaxy
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Violent Demise
I'm wasn't to impresses with him. I had him losing the fight up to the stoppage. And that's against an old, inactive Liakhovich. His other big win was against a shot Peter. Really he hasn't beaten anyone good who wasn't shot. I think Arreola destroys his clumsy looking ass
I'm with you, mick & cfh. The guy has to fight a live opponent before w can really make a call on him. I too think Arreola stops him!
I agree with this. Helenius isn't bad. The good parts of Helenius are his size and his killer instinct. I'm just not completely sold on him yet. He throws good combinations but so does Arreola. He doesn't move very well and he doesn't appear to be in the best shape. I'm curious to see how he takes a punch.
Did someone say he would beat Povetkin?
Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....
I must have watched a different Helenius in action this week. The one I saw had ridiculous hair, looked really out of shape and weird looking and I literally laughed out loud when I saw him. He was fighting some guy called the White Wolf who came to ring, fat, out of shape, slumped shouldered and looked like he was suffering from depression. I had him winning a dreary fight until about round 6 when his fatness and/or depression caught up with him and he stopped showing any desire. The man with ridiculous hair then stepped it up and knocked him out.
I wasn't sure if it was a real fight or meant to be a parody?
