Early congrats for Vlads 50th ko.
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Early congrats for Vlads 50th ko.
Jean Mormeck??!
"get in liiiiiine"
Apparently there is no more line.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I would not mind Wlad fighting Arreleo, the brothers should see who performs better against opponents they have both faced. This will give them the extra motivation they need to carry on with these defences.
I'm sure the German fans as always will be packing out another stadium for the fight, but as has been mentioned before the level of competition available for them that they haven't already beaten makes for a very short list of young fighters who will be getting into deep water too early in their careers, because the majority of them won't be seasoned and wily enough to fight to the kind of plan necessary to beat a Klitschko.
Unfortunately, the Vitali and Wladimir wrecking machine means that bouts such as these are inevitable.
Why? They're both one-sided bore-fests where Wlad wins every round and then gets a KO. Fury is mediocre, green, and absurdly overrated by Brits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Povetkin is really the only guy who's tier 2 rather than tier 3 or below in the division. And he has expressly declined to fight the Klitchkos.
Yes, this fight sucks. But every other fight sucks equally. This at least keeps the tier 3 guys free to fight each other. I'd rather see Arreola fight Helenius than either of them get dominated by a Klitchko. Throw Fury in that mix too if you insist, but he's at least another level down from those guys.
I agree this is a shit fight, BUT Fury?? Really?? He nearly got sparked by a shite journeyman with no power at weekend. Price will batter Fury, Wlad would KO the bum with a jab in the first round. I'd have Mormeck to beat Fury easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Haye was gonna fight Mormeck again but he chose Audley instead. If Audley is viewed as a more suitable opponent then it doesnt say much about Mormeck.
In his day and at his weight he was a good fighter. This is no longer his day or his weight so he brings nothing to the fight. I can only imagine he still has a fanbase in France and they could fill a stadium. Maybe the Klitschkos have settled for a tour of europe starting in Poland. Horrible fight this is. . .
Wow I never even though of Price. RETRACTED! Now I'd say Price!Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuI agree this is a shit fight, BUT Fury?? Really?? He nearly got sparked by a shite journeyman with no power at weekend. Price will batter Fury, Wlad would KO the bum with a jab in the first round. I'd have Mormeck to beat Fury easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Feel like such a newb for forgetting an Olympian!
Neither Fury or Price are anywhere near ready though IMO. For me I think it's time for Povetkin to MAN UP, and after he is beaten then I think the likes of Boystov, Helenius and Arreola could be due a shot. If Price is matched up well over the next 3 years I give him a better chance than most, but he still has loads to prove. As for Fury, I don't think he'll ever be ready and I see him eventually being thrown in with Haye due to the way he keeps attacking Haye in the press and I see something similar to the Audley fight with Haye taking Fury out whenever he has put money on himself to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosWow I never even though of Price. RETRACTED! Now I'd say Price!Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuI agree this is a shit fight, BUT Fury?? Really?? He nearly got sparked by a shite journeyman with no power at weekend. Price will batter Fury, Wlad would KO the bum with a jab in the first round. I'd have Mormeck to beat Fury easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Feel like such a newb for forgetting an Olympian!
I don't think the Klitschkos are that impressive, everyone seems to think they're the greats.
Vitali yes, he is a monster! Wlad not so much, but the old pros aren't beating them, it'll likely be someone younger than they're used to that'll beat them!
Probably will be someone younger. From whats on the horizon of HW boxing though I don't see anyone who can get in the ring with the Klits and even cause a problem. The closest man to doing that is David Haye and he got well outclassed. No of the HW's now I have 4 tiersQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Tier 1 is: The Klits
Tier 2 is: Haye
Tier 3 is: Chambers, Helenius, Boystov, Arreola, Thompson, Solis and Adamek etc
Tier 4 is: Price, Fury and Wilder. I'd also put Evander in here though his career is going in the opposite direction to the rest of this group. Then again I'd have him beating Fury and probably Wilder right now too. Price is the one to watch for me out of this group but as I said earlier he needs to be well matched so he can develop over the next couple of years.
I would agree with your tiers, where is Povetkin? Chageev? I know Chag is an outsider but he must not be dismissed.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuProbably will be someone younger. From whats on the horizon of HW boxing though I don't see anyone who can get in the ring with the Klits and even cause a problem. The closest man to doing that is David Haye and he got well outclassed. No of the HW's now I have 4 tiersQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Tier 1 is: The Klits
Tier 2 is: Haye
Tier 3 is: Chambers, Helenius, Boystov, Arreola, Thompson, Solis and Adamek etc
Tier 4 is: Price, Fury and Wilder. I'd also put Evander in here though his career is going in the opposite direction to the rest of this group. Then again I'd have him beating Fury and probably Wilder right now too. Price is the one to watch for me out of this group but as I said earlier he needs to be well matched so he can develop over the next couple of years.
Holyfield is a legend. If he did secure a Povetkin fight and managed to win, he'd go straight for a Klitschko! Probably with no success though, in both cases!
Sorry Chagaev and Povetkin both go in tier 3 I missed them by accident. Though Chagaev has looked very poor since his one sided beating off Wlad, so he could be on his way down.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosI would agree with your tiers, where is Povetkin? Chageev? I know Chag is an outsider but he must not be dismissed.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuProbably will be someone younger. From whats on the horizon of HW boxing though I don't see anyone who can get in the ring with the Klits and even cause a problem. The closest man to doing that is David Haye and he got well outclassed. No of the HW's now I have 4 tiersQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Tier 1 is: The Klits
Tier 2 is: Haye
Tier 3 is: Chambers, Helenius, Boystov, Arreola, Thompson, Solis and Adamek etc
Tier 4 is: Price, Fury and Wilder. I'd also put Evander in here though his career is going in the opposite direction to the rest of this group. Then again I'd have him beating Fury and probably Wilder right now too. Price is the one to watch for me out of this group but as I said earlier he needs to be well matched so he can develop over the next couple of years.
Holyfield is a legend. If he did secure a Povetkin fight and managed to win, he'd go straight for a Klitschko! Probably with no success though, in both cases!