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    Default Wladimir Klitschko V Jean Marc Mormeck! WTF?

    Jean Marc Mormeck

    Age: 39
    Natural cruiserweight
    Only 5'11"
    5 fights in 6 years
    4 wins(0 ko) in 6 years
    1 Loss(1 ko) in 6 years (TKO'd by Haye)



    Well Wladimir you've did it again. You've successfully landed yourself another easy fight against another cruiserweight and a guy who's got 2 knockout wins in 40 fights!

    When Tyson Fury has been calling you out since the Haye fight!

    BS! Pure BS!
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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko V Jean Marc Mormeck! WTF?

    Yes, a truly rubbish fight. Wlad won me over with Haye, but this causes my eyebrow to arch and look at him as the truly inferior sibling.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko V Jean Marc Mormeck! WTF?

    Well I agree it's an awful fight. Fury hasn't called Wlad out however. He's not ready for a Klitschko yet and won't be being rushed into a title fight soon.

    The problem for the Klitschko's is that they have already defeated everybody.

    There are only one or two fighters who haven't yet had their shot, and that only because they didn't want it, Povetkin for example.

    Who is there to fight that Wlad hasn't already fought?

    Also at this stage, as a former undisputed cruiserweight champ, Mormeck is actually no worse an opponent than Fury would be really, certainly he's more acomplished on paper, even though I suspect Fury would beat him.

    Ultimately though there is no opponent out there that wouldn't be met with scoff's as the gulf in class between Wlad and everyone else is too extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Well I agree it's an awful fight. Fury hasn't called Wlad out however. He's not ready for a Klitschko yet and won't be being rushed into a title fight soon.

    The problem for the Klitschko's is that they have already defeated everybody.

    There are only one or two fighters who haven't yet had their shot, and that only because they didn't want it, Povetkin for example.

    Who is there to fight that Wlad hasn't already fought?

    Also at this stage, as a former undisputed cruiserweight champ, Mormeck is actually no worse an opponent than Fury would be really, certainly he's more acomplished on paper, even though I suspect Fury would beat him.

    Ultimately though there is no opponent out there that wouldn't be met with scoff's as the gulf in class between Wlad and everyone else is too extreme.
    I know it is past its sell by date to say, but there is one man the Klits have never fought and that is James Toney. Does anyone really think that Toney couldn't have sold this fight better than Mormeck? Clearly Toney is finally busy at last but if he does beat Lebedev in style then Toney needs to be at least mentioned again. If Tarver can be mentioned by Steward, then a victorious Toney surely should. The Klits have never ever muttered the name of James Toney.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko V Jean Marc Mormeck! WTF?

    yeah who else is there?

    thing is tho, havent you got to be top 10 to get a world title chance?
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    Mormeck ??

    This is a joke right - has it been agreed
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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko V Jean Marc Mormeck! WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    Mormeck ??

    This is a joke right - has it been agreed
    just read its all but signed. Christ I'm looking forward to this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    yeah who else is there?

    thing is tho, havent you got to be top 10 to get a world title chance?
    It is a very soft defense.

    Since moving up Mormeck has beaten Maddalone, Oquendo and Timor Ibragimov. It's not a great resume, but the same line up of opponents was enough to get Holyfield a shot of Valuev, and he is a former undisputed cruiserweight champ as well I guess.

    He will have absolutely no chance to win this fight whatsoever, and it's little more than an exhibition but what fight out there wouldn't be?

    As I see it there are about half a dozen contenders coming through for 2012.

    Helenius
    Povetkin
    Dimitrenko
    Boystov

    Then further down the list you have maybe Mike Perez, Tyson Fury, David Price who could start making waves in another 12-18 months.

    I don't think any of the the four contenders listed above are ready for either Klitschko yet and personally am happy for them to keep fighting each other and gain experience so we have a legitimate challenger maybe late next year.

    Mormeck is an easy, easy win, but it's just a stay busy fight for Wlad whilst he waits for a credible challenger to emerge from those listed above.

    Best to just overlook this one and hope one of the other guys can start winning fights in impressive style and give us a better matchup later on.

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    Arreola, Boytsov, christ even Boswell or Tarver would have been a better choices imo
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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko V Jean Marc Mormeck! WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Fury hasn't called Wlad out however. He's not ready for a Klitschko yet and won't be being rushed into a title fight soon.
    From what I read he has had contact with them :S Plus he told David Haye to step aside and allow him a shot!

    Maybe speculation though.

    But you must agree Fury would be a much, much better match up than Mormeck!
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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko V Jean Marc Mormeck! WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Fury hasn't called Wlad out however. He's not ready for a Klitschko yet and won't be being rushed into a title fight soon.
    From what I read he has had contact with them :S Plus he told David Haye to step aside and allow him a shot!

    Maybe speculation though.

    But you must agree Fury would be a much, much better match up than Mormeck!
    Yeah, but I'd much, much rather he waited another 18 months before he stepped up to that level. He's making good progress and he's one to watch for the future but he'd get murdered right now so it would just be a waste of a potential decent scrap.

    I don't want Wlad or Vitali to go anywhere near the contenders coming through like Fury, Helenius etc for another 12 months at least, so that when they do fight they at least have some experience of fighting on the big stage.

    A fight with Mormeck is nothing more than a stay busy, keep in shape type of fight, but honestly that's all I want Wlad to have right now. I want the contenders out there to fight each other and create a cradible challenger, rather than snuff them all out before they have matured.

    Hellenius, Fury, Boytsov etc are all routine wins for either Klit at this stage so even worse matchups than Mormeck imo as rubbing out one of them now just deprives the heavyweight scene more in the future. Beating Mormeck does no damage to the heavyweight division at least, unlike Vitali and Wlad's recent wins over Haye and Adamek, which have effectively robbed boxing of the two most exciting heavyweight contenders. Who cares about either now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Don't kill the golden eggs!
    ^^That is now my signature quote! Brilliant!

    I guess I agree with you about Fury, just sucks that boxing is now using heavyweights V cruiserweights just to keep the heavyweight division alive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    But you must agree Fury would be a much, much better match up than Mormeck!
    Why? They're both one-sided bore-fests where Wlad wins every round and then gets a KO. Fury is mediocre, green, and absurdly overrated by Brits.

    Povetkin is really the only guy who's tier 2 rather than tier 3 or below in the division. And he has expressly declined to fight the Klitchkos.

    Yes, this fight sucks. But every other fight sucks equally. This at least keeps the tier 3 guys free to fight each other. I'd rather see Arreola fight Helenius than either of them get dominated by a Klitchko. Throw Fury in that mix too if you insist, but he's at least another level down from those guys.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko V Jean Marc Mormeck! WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Jean Marc Mormeck

    Age: 39
    Natural cruiserweight
    Only 5'11"
    5 fights in 6 years
    4 wins(0 ko) in 6 years
    1 Loss(1 ko) in 6 years (TKO'd by Haye)



    Well Wladimir you've did it again. You've successfully landed yourself another easy fight against another cruiserweight and a guy who's got 2 knockout wins in 40 fights!

    When Tyson Fury has been calling you out since the Haye fight!

    BS! Pure BS!
    I agree this is a shit fight, BUT Fury?? Really?? He nearly got sparked by a shite journeyman with no power at weekend. Price will batter Fury, Wlad would KO the bum with a jab in the first round. I'd have Mormeck to beat Fury easily.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko V Jean Marc Mormeck! WTF?

    Haye was gonna fight Mormeck again but he chose Audley instead. If Audley is viewed as a more suitable opponent then it doesnt say much about Mormeck.

    In his day and at his weight he was a good fighter. This is no longer his day or his weight so he brings nothing to the fight. I can only imagine he still has a fanbase in France and they could fill a stadium. Maybe the Klitschkos have settled for a tour of europe starting in Poland. Horrible fight this is. . .

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