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I'm assuming that 150 came from Martinez originally throwing that catch-weight out as bait to Manny (bait which was not taken). I too would prefer to see this at 154 but I don't think it's an issue of Floyd pulling 150 out of nowhere and hoping that Martinez wouldn't agree to it. Martinez's representation/offer came first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra
This is correct and in addition, I believe he extended the 150 offer to Floyd too. Still, Floyd has given Manny a ton of crap for fighting catchweights. If this fight were to be made, I would prefer it at 154. Floyd fought Oscar there years ago anyway and now he is bigger than he was then so it isn't even as much of a stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaI'm assuming that 150 came from Martinez originally throwing that catch-weight out as bait to Manny (bait which was not taken). I too would prefer to see this at 154 but I don't think it's an issue of Floyd pulling 150 out of nowhere and hoping that Martinez wouldn't agree to it. Martinez's representation/offer came first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra
Is Martinez or Pacquiao a tougher opponent for Mayweather?
Martinez at is the tougher opponent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
I think Martinez at 154 is tougher than Pac at 147. I don't know about Martinez at 150. It's at least a question (so better than any other alternative).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
You beat me to it..Martinez has said before that he is a small middleweight and dont forget when Floyd fought Oscar he only managed 150 on the scales and 147 on fight night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra
Having said that, fighting Martinez at 154 would be the better victory if only to give people no room to talk shit.
But 150 isn't as unfair as people think..Again though, I'd prefer he left the catchweights for the king (we know who that is)
You're talking shit. I am fair to both fighters and call it how I see it. Go and drag some old posts of mine for evidence otherwise don't make stoopid arse posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
The only person I "hate" is Joe Calzaghe ;)
You can't use that language towards a fighter! Using the "P" word to describe a fighter means you have a bad attitude! Ask Fenster...(Fact)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Gotta love martinez low guard and a bit more relaxed around the ring than pac
Is Floyd bigger? I haven't seen him as big as he was against Oscar since then. Against Ortiz he weighed in fight night at 150, that means he would come in around there against Martinez also. 154 would be nice to Martinez, but even at 150, Martinez will be having a huge advantage come fight night in terms of weight. He will probably be 15-16 pounds heavier than Floyd along with his speed and power. I just think Floyd knows that Martinez isn't a truly complete fighter, and that he can beat him.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratThis is correct and in addition, I believe he extended the 150 offer to Floyd too. Still, Floyd has given Manny a ton of crap for fighting catchweights. If this fight were to be made, I would prefer it at 154. Floyd fought Oscar there years ago anyway and now he is bigger than he was then so it isn't even as much of a stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaI'm assuming that 150 came from Martinez originally throwing that catch-weight out as bait to Manny (bait which was not taken). I too would prefer to see this at 154 but I don't think it's an issue of Floyd pulling 150 out of nowhere and hoping that Martinez wouldn't agree to it. Martinez's representation/offer came first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra
You know what the "haters will say" when this fight gets made?
After 5 years... it's about damn time.
But, on a more serious note, if he give Martinez 154, then I will bow down to Floyd. Shit.. Martinez does not really have a good Style for Floyd either, does he? But he can really bang! I was amazed at what he did to Pavlik's face in Atlantic City and his ome shot on PWill a couple years ago. But this.. This would be a real tough fight to call.
Martinez should totally whoop Margarito's ass if the Floyd fight falls through. ;D
I have a lot of respect for Mayweather's abilities, but making Martinez boil down to 150 is worse than any disadvantage Pacquiao forced on his opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Althugz
Go Floyd, If Manny don't want the fight May 5th I'm sure Martinez will jump at the chance
Not a chance worse than Oscar at 147! But this isn't a catchweight pissing contest and I would prefer it if Floyd fought him at 154.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI have a lot of respect for Mayweather's abilities, but making Martinez boil down to 150 is worse than any disadvantage Pacquiao forced on his opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Althugz
The only reason I'm saying that is that it's a legit weight category and to satisfy you lot. Otherwise I dont have much of a real problem it being at 150. Taeth also explained it well
Did you see how many times he got hit by barker. I think Floyd wins quite easily but Martinez could give him a few problems.
Would rather see Pac and Martinez. More of a challenge for pac but Martinez would still lose.
I cannot complain if this fight is made. I only see three people to put against Pac or Floyd if they dont fight each other. Martinez, Bradley or marquez again. Would love to see a Floyd or Pac rematch with Marquez. I think he is more confortable at the weight now and would have a better chance.
However I see Floyd beating all of these people even Pac. But they are the only ones with a chance to make a fight against Floyd slightly competitive.