Wlad to fight again in Novermber or December

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Originally Posted by shza

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

This is meant to be constructive, Lyle. So please no chip on shoulder.

But one way for Wlad to maybe force the issue and increase his general public perception is to become much busier. Start going through the HW ranks like a hot knife through butter. Start knocking off the top contenders one by one. Leave no question as to how he would fare against "X" or "Y". As you know, I'm one of those who believe the division is total shit. Of course, it's not Wlad's fault. And it's not like Wlad has been extremely tested or taxed in any of his recent fights. Why not then become a little busier? Bulldoze through the division top contenders, before taking a well-deserved retirement. Leave no doubt as to the Povetkins, the Heleniuses, the Adameks. Wlad right now is not even averaging 2 fights a year. Judging by the lack of wear and tear on him.... he could surely fight at least 3 times a year. He's done it before.

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I don't know anyone who has even an iota of doubt about how any of those three fights would play out. If Chisora were to beat Haye, he'd be the best opponent. But there really isn't anyone in the division outside the Klitchkos who isn't either (a) a prospect or (b) total shit. I mean, Adamek definitely would have lost his last fight if Chambers hadn't lost an arm in the first round. And Povetkin and Helenius both deserved to lose their last fights (against mediocre competition).

I'm just bummed we never got to see a Klitchko take on Valuev -- strictly for the spectacle of seeing a guy that huge get KO'd.

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A couple hours after posting this, I saw an interview with Manny Steward saying that they'd fight Chisora if he beat Haye. That would be the fight to make if that happened.

I'd be tempted to say that it will be the winner of Haye vs Chisora. Biggest moneymaker IMO, and they will be well aware of that. He could probably make money fighting Helenius or Wach but no-one worldwide would really care.

He needs to fight someone with a pulse, but a lot of them aren't ready for the fight yet. But i do think a lot of the contenders mentioned in this thread will be ready to step up soon, wlad is getting older which is only a good thing for these contenders wanting to fight at the top. Personally I think somebody of Klitchkos size/build is going to be able to step up to beating him though. I don't think somebody of Haye or Chisoras build has any chance, they are too
Small to make an impact on wlad.

2 pages in and Im the first to say I didnt know he was fighting Thompson and I dont care who he fights next?

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Originally Posted by Memphis

2 pages in and Im the first to say I didnt know he was fighting Thompson and I dont care who he fights next?

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Then why bother to reply?

Right, because every time you post about David Haye its because you've got something new, interesting and exciting to say ;D

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Right, because every time you post about David Haye its because you've got something new, interesting and exciting to say ;D

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Some people refuse to see the truth about Haye even to this day. I'm certain there are people out there figuring Haye will stand toe-to-toe with Chisora and get in an all out war.....but oh well, I guess they're in for a surprise....again :rolleyes:

I care about people seeing Haye for what he is, are you telling me that you think people should care about you not caring about the Klitschko's?

I dont care if people care if I care or not ;D Just saying, I dont care who Wlad fights and I had no idea he was fighting, no need to get menstrual about it, I dont care!

You're not still offering yourself up as some sort of prophet are you? :-\

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Originally Posted by Memphis

I dont care if people care if I care or not ;D Just saying, I dont care who Wlad fights and I had no idea he was fighting, no need to get menstrual about it, I dont care!

You're not still offering yourself up as some sort of prophet are you? :-\

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So you decide to post about how you don't know/care about it? I'm sorry, just trying to put together why you would take time out of your busy day to do such a thing. I might say to myself "Hmm I didn't know ____ was fighting or had fought recently, odd" but I wouldn't take the time to mention it in a post about that fighter probably because I don't care and not posting would be a sign of how much a don't care.

Prophet? No, I'm no prophet, I just call it like I see it and although I called David Haye out 4 years ago for just being a shit talking wanker there was nothing prophetic about it, that's just what the guy is.....now I took it a step further and asked that he be taken to task about all the shit he talked, but apparently that won't happen, perhaps because the Brits feel a little sore over the subject.

;D Same Old bullshit

Most Brits this, Brits dont like it that. Seriously man its getting old.

Without Haye's shit-talk Wlad would've never made his huge career high payday.

The worst thing possible for the Klits was the Haye-Chisora press conference fight. Haye-Vitali, Chisora-Wlad were by far their highest profile bouts.

Now Wlad will be praying Chisora beats Haye.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Without Haye's shit-talk Wlad would've never made his huge career high payday.

The worst thing possible for the Klits was the Haye-Chisora press conference fight. Haye-Vitali, Chisora-Wlad were by far their highest profile bouts.

Now Wlad will be praying Chisora beats Haye.

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So you're agreeing with me that Haye didn't deserve the hype by saying "Haye's shit talk" made the fight big. Quick question, did Holyfield shit talk Tyson? Was the fight still big?....just saying.

Why would Wlad hope Chisora beats Haye? It doesn't matter to Wlad he'd easily beat them both no matter who he chose to fight IF he actually chose to fight either of them. Haye certainly has done nothing to warrant another shot, Chisora hasn't done much either other than act like he belongs in a damn zoo.

Memphis, you know what gets old? People hating on The Klitschko's, that gets old. But you go right ahead and watch the Chav and the retard fight (what title is on the line again?) and make them millionaires for being fucking wankers.

What we have here is an abundance of second rate opponents, when you compare them to the Klitschkos. The Klitschkos should retire long enough to let an 'undisputed Champ' be determined, and then come back to whip his ass. You guys are beating this subject to death, it's the same theme every day, from a different angle! The only HW fight I want to see has opponents with the same last name. How much money would it take to get those two in the ring, for a serious fight? That's the question you guys should concentrate on. It's all about the money, and money does make everyone listen! Hey, maybe they could be forced into a 'Unification' fight. I'm for any idea that will get you guys talking about something, other than the next opponent for the Klitschkos. Did you ever notice that Klitschko ends with KO? See, you guys are driving me crazy!

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

Memphis, you know what gets old? People hating on The Klitschko's, that gets old. But you go right ahead and watch the Chav and the retard fight (what title is on the line again?) and make them millionaires for being fucking wankers.

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I dont hate on the Klits? I was just saying Im not overly interested in who Wlad beats up next. No disrespect to the guy but it will be as dull as dishwater. As an event Haye Chisora beats Wlad V .......

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

Some potential targets

Odlanier Solis: last fight May 29th, no future fights scheduled, should be ready to go by Nov/Dec. He doesn't deserve another title shot, but he is available and one would think would jump at the opportunity.

Robert Helenius: Last fought vs Dereck Chisora and was gifted a decision, yet he had arm issues and might be ready by Nov/Dec but will likely be too rusty to attempt a title shot.

Alexander Povetkin: last fought in February, no future fights scheduled, but Hasim Rahman will still want his shot vs Povetkin and given the choice between the two we must figure Alex chooses Rahman.

Tomaz Adamek: Scheduled to fight in September, it's unlikely he'll fight Wlad in Nov or Dec.

Kubrat Pulev: A slightly green pro with only 16 fights, but he's undefeated and having fought and KO'd Dimitrenko he could be best suited to fight Wladimir.

Seth Mitchell: Scheduled to fight Jonathan Banks in September, doubtful he's ready for Wlad this year.

Cris Arreola: Boxrec doesn't have him scheduled to fight Bermane Stiverne anymore (damn, I would LOVE to see that fight), but he should be ready in Nov/Dec and would be a durable and dangerous test for Wladimir.

Bermane Stiverne: Not a good "boxer" but one hell of a slugger, and if anyone that has the power to hurt Wlad it's this guy. Last fought in April, had been bandied about as an opponent for Arreola, but that may have fallen through.

There are certainly others up for consideration, but I would venture to guess that these fellas are the main ones worth looking at.

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Odlanier Solis, Bermane Stiverne, Arreola, Seth Mitchel, Povetkin, Chisora, Robert Helenius, and Adamek would all make good fights for Wlad, bring 'um on and let's see them, I don't care in which order. HBO should try and pick up some of these fights.