Wlad to fight again in Novermber or December

[El Kabong]

Some potential targets

Odlanier Solis: last fight May 29th, no future fights scheduled, should be ready to go by Nov/Dec. He doesn't deserve another title shot, but he is available and one would think would jump at the opportunity.

Robert Helenius: Last fought vs Dereck Chisora and was gifted a decision, yet he had arm issues and might be ready by Nov/Dec but will likely be too rusty to attempt a title shot.

Alexander Povetkin: last fought in February, no future fights scheduled, but Hasim Rahman will still want his shot vs Povetkin and given the choice between the two we must figure Alex chooses Rahman.

Tomaz Adamek: Scheduled to fight in September, it's unlikely he'll fight Wlad in Nov or Dec.

Kubrat Pulev: A slightly green pro with only 16 fights, but he's undefeated and having fought and KO'd Dimitrenko he could be best suited to fight Wladimir.

Seth Mitchell: Scheduled to fight Jonathan Banks in September, doubtful he's ready for Wlad this year.

Cris Arreola: Boxrec doesn't have him scheduled to fight Bermane Stiverne anymore (damn, I would LOVE to see that fight), but he should be ready in Nov/Dec and would be a durable and dangerous test for Wladimir.

Bermane Stiverne: Not a good "boxer" but one hell of a slugger, and if anyone that has the power to hurt Wlad it's this guy. Last fought in April, had been bandied about as an opponent for Arreola, but that may have fallen through.

There are certainly others up for consideration, but I would venture to guess that these fellas are the main ones worth looking at.

[El Kabong]

I wouldn't mind him trying to make a "bum of the month club", if he does pick up the pace then he does have a very good chance of challenging, matching, or even beating Joe Louis' record for successful title defenses (Wlad is at about 13/14 at the moment).

[captainanddew]

Some potential targets

Odlanier Solis: last fight May 29th, no future fights scheduled, should be ready to go by Nov/Dec. He doesn't deserve another title shot, but he is available and one would think would jump at the opportunity.

Robert Helenius: Last fought vs Dereck Chisora and was gifted a decision, yet he had arm issues and might be ready by Nov/Dec but will likely be too rusty to attempt a title shot.

Alexander Povetkin: last fought in February, no future fights scheduled, but Hasim Rahman will still want his shot vs Povetkin and given the choice between the two we must figure Alex chooses Rahman.

Tomaz Adamek: Scheduled to fight in September, it's unlikely he'll fight Wlad in Nov or Dec.

Kubrat Pulev: A slightly green pro with only 16 fights, but he's undefeated and having fought and KO'd Dimitrenko he could be best suited to fight Wladimir.

Seth Mitchell: Scheduled to fight Jonathan Banks in September, doubtful he's ready for Wlad this year.

Cris Arreola: Boxrec doesn't have him scheduled to fight Bermane Stiverne anymore (damn, I would LOVE to see that fight), but he should be ready in Nov/Dec and would be a durable and dangerous test for Wladimir.

Bermane Stiverne: Not a good "boxer" but one hell of a slugger, and if anyone that has the power to hurt Wlad it's this guy. Last fought in April, had been bandied about as an opponent for Arreola, but that may have fallen through.

There are certainly others up for consideration, but I would venture to guess that these fellas are the main ones worth looking at.

Wlad needs a new strategy. Fight every 10 weeks for 2 years, destroy 10 opponents and retire.

Povetkin-already had his chance against Wlad and didn't take it.
Arreola-his team was talking about Wlad and I believe have changed their mind
Stiverne-not ready
Mitchell-not ready
Fury-not ready
Boystov-not ready
Price-not ready
Pulev-not ready

Adamek or Solis are reasonable options. But Adamek got destroyed by Vitali and hasn't looked great since. Solis has been injured and likely won't take it. Helenius-he got his ass kicked by Chisora, and then has been injured. They won't take the fight.

We probably get left with a fight we don't want.

[TitoFan]

Nightmare scenario:

Solis finally gets his fat ass in shape and declares himself ready.
Mitchell gets a few more tuneup fights... works out the technical kinks in his game... and declares himself ready.
Arreola gets a set of balls to go along with his punching power, and declares himself ready.
Helenius completely recovers from his arm injury, has a tune-up fight or two... and declares himself ready.
Stiverne learns some technical skills to go along with his power, and declares himself ready.
"Mago" the Russian gets a few more fights under his belt, and declares himself ready.


But by then, Wlad is 42 years old, and says:

"I've been waiting for the last few years to fight you bums. But now I'm past my prime, and I'm going to retire. Ciao."

[Leighton]

Some potential targets

Odlanier Solis: last fight May 29th, no future fights scheduled, should be ready to go by Nov/Dec. He doesn't deserve another title shot, but he is available and one would think would jump at the opportunity.

Robert Helenius: Last fought vs Dereck Chisora and was gifted a decision, yet he had arm issues and might be ready by Nov/Dec but will likely be too rusty to attempt a title shot.

Alexander Povetkin: last fought in February, no future fights scheduled, but Hasim Rahman will still want his shot vs Povetkin and given the choice between the two we must figure Alex chooses Rahman.

Tomaz Adamek: Scheduled to fight in September, it's unlikely he'll fight Wlad in Nov or Dec.

Kubrat Pulev: A slightly green pro with only 16 fights, but he's undefeated and having fought and KO'd Dimitrenko he could be best suited to fight Wladimir.

Seth Mitchell: Scheduled to fight Jonathan Banks in September, doubtful he's ready for Wlad this year.

Cris Arreola: Boxrec doesn't have him scheduled to fight Bermane Stiverne anymore (damn, I would LOVE to see that fight), but he should be ready in Nov/Dec and would be a durable and dangerous test for Wladimir.

Bermane Stiverne: Not a good "boxer" but one hell of a slugger, and if anyone that has the power to hurt Wlad it's this guy. Last fought in April, had been bandied about as an opponent for Arreola, but that may have fallen through.

There are certainly others up for consideration, but I would venture to guess that these fellas are the main ones worth looking at.

Wlad needs a new strategy. Fight every 10 weeks for 2 years, destroy 10 opponents and retire.

Povetkin-already had his chance against Wlad and didn't take it.
Arreola-his team was talking about Wlad and I believe have changed their mind
Stiverne-not ready
Mitchell-not ready
Fury-not ready
Boystov-not ready
Price-not ready
Pulev-not ready

Adamek or Solis are reasonable options. But Adamek got destroyed by Vitali and hasn't looked great since. Solis has been injured and likely won't take it. Helenius-he got his ass kicked by Chisora, and then has been injured. They won't take the fight.

We probably get left with a fight we don't want.

Why not give it to the people that do want to fight them. Arreola or Chisora. When they took on the Klits they gave it there all.

[rjj tszyu]

Some potential targets

Odlanier Solis: last fight May 29th, no future fights scheduled, should be ready to go by Nov/Dec. He doesn't deserve another title shot, but he is available and one would think would jump at the opportunity.

Robert Helenius: Last fought vs Dereck Chisora and was gifted a decision, yet he had arm issues and might be ready by Nov/Dec but will likely be too rusty to attempt a title shot.

Alexander Povetkin: last fought in February, no future fights scheduled, but Hasim Rahman will still want his shot vs Povetkin and given the choice between the two we must figure Alex chooses Rahman.

Tomaz Adamek: Scheduled to fight in September, it's unlikely he'll fight Wlad in Nov or Dec.

Kubrat Pulev: A slightly green pro with only 16 fights, but he's undefeated and having fought and KO'd Dimitrenko he could be best suited to fight Wladimir.

Seth Mitchell: Scheduled to fight Jonathan Banks in September, doubtful he's ready for Wlad this year.

Cris Arreola: Boxrec doesn't have him scheduled to fight Bermane Stiverne anymore (damn, I would LOVE to see that fight), but he should be ready in Nov/Dec and would be a durable and dangerous test for Wladimir.

Bermane Stiverne: Not a good "boxer" but one hell of a slugger, and if anyone that has the power to hurt Wlad it's this guy. Last fought in April, had been bandied about as an opponent for Arreola, but that may have fallen through.

There are certainly others up for consideration, but I would venture to guess that these fellas are the main ones worth looking at.

Of this list I think Solis "MIGHT" have a chance with Vitali, not Wlad though. Solis has a chance of outboxing Vitali for me but Wlad is so much better at the fundamentals than his brother that he would easily outbox and stop Solis. Other than that I don't give anyone on that list much chance. I hope in 6-12 months Price and Wilder come on and give us someone to talk about. Haye did it, I'm not saying everyone gave him a chance but the fact that some did made for a great build up!

We have to face facts now Wlad is the best HW out there and no one else is even close. This is like when Lennox was ruling. After Evander got too old no one was really good enough to share a ring with him. Maybe Wlad could have a Rahman moment and not take a fight 100% seriously and get caught? I doubt it though, he seems to be very professional.

I think Arreola will get this fight in the back end of the year but the result will be the same... Klitschko KO

As for Fury there is not a chance he'd accept a fight with Wlad, he was shit scared of Price and he's still very much on the learning curve so fighting Wlad who is already an ATG and sure fire HOFer is a serious no go. If someone told Fury he had to fight Wlad, his chemical toilet would explode with all the shitting he would be doing!

[TitoFan]

Pointless argument, really.

Haye obviously did a great job in selling interest for his fight against Wlad. Not so much for his HW accomplishments, really.... because beating "circus-man" Valuev, and garbage HW John Ruiz isn't really a good HW resume. He sold the fight because of his big mouth, his promises, his "snake-oil salesman" personality, and his punching power and talent, which held the promise of a good fight.

Yes, he probably made it possible for Wlad to earn more money for that particular fight than if Wlad had fought some timid, humble, "I hope I win" Joe Blow off the street.

And then Haye reneged on his promise. The joke's on us.... ha-ha-ha. He laughed all the way to the bank. "I never actually meant to actually fight.... are you kidding? You all bought that shit?"

Looking forward, would Haye make a good opponent for Wlad again? Absolutely not. "Fool me once.......", like the saying goes. He had his shot, and threw it in the garbage. Had it been competitive, then absolutely. But what the HW division needs now (and I qualify all my statements with "what's good for the division" because I happen to feel the HW division could use a serious "pick-me-up" right about now)...... is a good competitive fight involving Wlad. Someone who's not afraid to go in there and mix it up, hopefully while having the skills and power to challenge Wlad.

[rjj tszyu]

Pointless argument, really.

Haye obviously did a great job in selling interest for his fight against Wlad. Not so much for his HW accomplishments, really.... because beating "circus-man" Valuev, and garbage HW John Ruiz isn't really a good HW resume. He sold the fight because of his big mouth, his promises, his "snake-oil salesman" personality, and his punching power and talent, which held the promise of a good fight.

Yes, he probably made it possible for Wlad to earn more money for that particular fight than if Wlad had fought some timid, humble, "I hope I win" Joe Blow off the street.

And then Haye reneged on his promise. The joke's on us.... ha-ha-ha. He laughed all the way to the bank. "I never actually meant to actually fight.... are you kidding? You all bought that shit?"

Looking forward, would Haye make a good opponent for Wlad again? Absolutely not. "Fool me once.......", like the saying goes. He had his shot, and threw it in the garbage. Had it been competitive, then absolutely. But what the HW division needs now (and I qualify all my statements with "what's good for the division" because I happen to feel the HW division could use a serious "pick-me-up" right about now)...... is a good competitive fight involving Wlad. Someone who's not afraid to go in there and mix it up, hopefully while having the skills and power to challenge Wlad.

I 100% agree with this post. The only way Haye DESERVES another shot is to "fight" his way back up. Will he have to? I'm not really sure. To be honest I'm not that sure he even wants Wlad again.

[Fenster]

There's no way on earth Haye-Wlad ever happens again.

Chisora will fight Wlad as long as he doesn't get humiliated against Haye. The fight is already sold.

Vitali will fight Haye if he wins. That fight would have already happened had the Haye-Chisora press conference fight not happened. Team Klit said so.

Lyle and myself were discussing the value of bad behaviour and controversial characters.

[Mars_ax]

FWIW, I'm curious to see the result of Haye vs. Chisora, but aside from that I have no interest in seeing Haye fight Vitali or anyone else.

[Freedom]

Povetkin, Mitchell, or Pulev are decent potential opponents for Wlad.

[Mars_ax]

Some potential targets

Odlanier Solis: last fight May 29th, no future fights scheduled, should be ready to go by Nov/Dec. He doesn't deserve another title shot, but he is available and one would think would jump at the opportunity.

Robert Helenius: Last fought vs Dereck Chisora and was gifted a decision, yet he had arm issues and might be ready by Nov/Dec but will likely be too rusty to attempt a title shot.

Alexander Povetkin: last fought in February, no future fights scheduled, but Hasim Rahman will still want his shot vs Povetkin and given the choice between the two we must figure Alex chooses Rahman.

Tomaz Adamek: Scheduled to fight in September, it's unlikely he'll fight Wlad in Nov or Dec.

Kubrat Pulev: A slightly green pro with only 16 fights, but he's undefeated and having fought and KO'd Dimitrenko he could be best suited to fight Wladimir.

Seth Mitchell: Scheduled to fight Jonathan Banks in September, doubtful he's ready for Wlad this year.

Cris Arreola: Boxrec doesn't have him scheduled to fight Bermane Stiverne anymore (damn, I would LOVE to see that fight), but he should be ready in Nov/Dec and would be a durable and dangerous test for Wladimir.

Bermane Stiverne: Not a good "boxer" but one hell of a slugger, and if anyone that has the power to hurt Wlad it's this guy. Last fought in April, had been bandied about as an opponent for Arreola, but that may have fallen through.

There are certainly others up for consideration, but I would venture to guess that these fellas are the main ones worth looking at.

Odlanier Solis, Bermane Stiverne, Arreola, Seth Mitchel, Povetkin, Chisora, Robert Helenius, and Adamek would all make good fights for Wlad, bring 'um on and let's see them, I don't care in which order. HBO should try and pick up some of these fights.