Farewelling 'The Ghost'

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Originally Posted by Bobthepen

I read Pavlik was offered 50k for a fight not long ago. Take away tax, manager's fee, and other deductions and I doubt I would be motivated to enter a grueling two month camp to prepare. Make it a million, and I would reconsider. Sounds sensible to me.

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Gotta agree. It's gotta be hard for a former world champ to get motivated for what equals to be chump change in the grand scheme of things, taking into account all the deductions.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

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Originally Posted by Bobthepen

I read Pavlik was offered 50k for a fight not long ago. Take away tax, manager's fee, and other deductions and I doubt I would be motivated to enter a grueling two month camp to prepare. Make it a million, and I would reconsider. Sounds sensible to me.

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Gotta agree. It's gotta be hard for a former world champ to get motivated for what equals to be chump change in the grand scheme of things, taking into account all the deductions.

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He may realise that chump change is more than he can make working at MacDonald and decide to come back.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by Master

Was Pavlik an over achiever or under achiever?

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Over achiever before Hopkins, an under achiever after.
This is just my opinion, I've never read anything along this line, but I think he lost faith in his trainer and himself after Hopkins.
I'm not saying he would have beaten Martinez if he hadn't fought Hopkins first. I'm saying the Hopkins fight should never have happened, it was a capital error.

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Agree. What I will say is that had it not been for his personal problems, be they caused by the Hopkins pasting or not, I reckon Pavlik would still be middleweight champion today. For that reason alone I believe he underachieved.

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by outspoken

He will always have a void .. like he could have accomplished much more. Sucks

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thing is, realistically he wasn't gonna ever really reach the level he once was at, so the void would always be there, now by calling it quits at least he's leaving without taking anymore physical punishment caused in the ring, I wish him luck and hope he has a good life

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True, at least now he leaves with his only losses being to two legit P4P fighters in Hopkins and Martinez. Not some bums or somewhat above average fighter who beat him because he wasn't the same fighter. I can respect that.