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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    He will always have a void .. like he could have accomplished much more. Sucks
    thing is, realistically he wasn't gonna ever really reach the level he once was at, so the void would always be there, now by calling it quits at least he's leaving without taking anymore physical punishment caused in the ring, I wish him luck and hope he has a good life

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    The MW Gerry Cooney.

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    Was Pavlik an over achiever or under achiever?
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Was Pavlik an over achiever or under achiever?
    Under achiever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobthepen View Post
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    Was Pavlik an over achiever or under achiever?
    Under achiever.
    Thats what I think but read in boxing new mag that someone thought he overachieved considering he was knocked down by Miranda and Taylor but got up to win.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Was Pavlik an over achiever or under achiever?
    Over achiever before Hopkins, an under achiever after.
    This is just my opinion, I've never read anything along this line, but I think he lost faith in his trainer and himself after Hopkins.
    I'm not saying he would have beaten Martinez if he hadn't fought Hopkins first. I'm saying the Hopkins fight should never have happened, it was a capital error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Was Pavlik an over achiever or under achiever?
    Over achiever before Hopkins, an under achiever after.
    This is just my opinion, I've never read anything along this line, but I think he lost faith in his trainer and himself after Hopkins.
    I'm not saying he would have beaten Martinez if he hadn't fought Hopkins first. I'm saying the Hopkins fight should never have happened, it was a capital error.
    Agree. What I will say is that had it not been for his personal problems, be they caused by the Hopkins pasting or not, I reckon Pavlik would still be middleweight champion today. For that reason alone I believe he underachieved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    He will always have a void .. like he could have accomplished much more. Sucks
    thing is, realistically he wasn't gonna ever really reach the level he once was at, so the void would always be there, now by calling it quits at least he's leaving without taking anymore physical punishment caused in the ring, I wish him luck and hope he has a good life
    True, at least now he leaves with his only losses being to two legit P4P fighters in Hopkins and Martinez. Not some bums or somewhat above average fighter who beat him because he wasn't the same fighter. I can respect that.

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