Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
A guy who has never lifted weights before lifts weights... noobs act amazed when his physique is different... :rolleyes:
THIS.
Seriously, there is nothing that changed that couldn't be easily explained by natural changes/improvements, specifically LIFTING WEIGHTS. He didn't become a 220lb bodybuilder. He put on a few pounds of muscle (which on a small frame with low bodyfat makes a big difference) which is perfectly achievable in that time span with purely natural weight training.
*Note, I'm not categorically saying he didn't take anything, but that there is NO evidence that he did.
Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?
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Originally Posted by
ruthless rocco
people are always talking about how JMM bulked up for that PAC fight.
it wasn't roids. it was implants. i can't believe you couldn't tell CountryBoy!
I heard he also takes a concoction of drugs to mask his HIV so that he can pass it on to desperate fighters looking for a pay day... despicable.
Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?
No I don't think he did and all we can do is look at the fact that he passed his PED tests. What is the point of the thread? This was a year ago already. Are we trying the Lance Armstrong the crap outta Marquez?
Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?
It's certainly possible, but if you believe in that criteria for finding guilt, why do you not suspect Pacquaio, who all of a sudden jumped 3 weight classes in 2 years comfortably?
Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?
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Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
It's certainly possible, but if you believe in that criteria for finding guilt, why do you not suspect Pacquaio, who all of a sudden jumped 3 weight classes in 2 years comfortably?
It's by this logic that I suspect both of them.
Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?
Here's a homework assignment for anyone who doesn't feel that these guys should be suspected of PEDs.
Go on a bodybuilding forum and tell them you want to put on 15lbs of muscle, but you're not interested in using steroids or anything like that. You'll get a wealth of suggestions and tips.
Among those tips, you will NOT find "run X miles a day". You won't find "start jumping rope" or "start doing wind sprints".
Why? Because endurance training (which is a LARGE part of what boxing trailing entails) is not conducive to bulking up. It is totally counter-productive. When a bodybuilder is bulking up, he eats a ton, he lifts heavy weights for low reps, and he makes sure to get lots of rest and sleep. He doesn't do a ton of roadwork and endurance-building activity.
So when you see a guy, out of the blue, suddenly bulk up 10, 15, 20lbs while maintaining the incredible aerobic training schedule that a boxing camp entails, that's suspect. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's not normal.
Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?
He's definitely taking stuff. He ignored all the calls to do random testing before the last Manny fight after he did some public workouts and there were a lot of people questioning whether he could look like that without PEDs. The he promised to do random testing with a proper testing organisation for all future fights and so did Heredia but they still haven't done so.
Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
It's offensive to even bring this up. Marquez has always been one of the stand up guys in Boxing with one of the cleanest fighting style so why accuse now?
IF anything, he should have juiced up in his biggest test against Floyd.. WHy stay clean for the best fighter in the world while juicing against a fighter who he already beat 3x..
Anybody who juices would not feel the need to drink his own piss. Now that's just over doing it lol.
I saw alot of Marquez' training sessions leading up to the 4th pacquiao fight and he practiced that right hand over and over again on the pads. His right hand made this scary popping sound that ive never heard from him before and that power came from added muscles and the fact that he totally sat down on his punches.
YOu really think steroids make you punch harder? lol Muscles can be added easily and when you are already a good puncher, it's not that difficult to increase your power.
Marquez' punching power comes from technique, timing and punch placement that the one that landed on Pacquiao couldnt have been more picture perfect. What made it even more devastating was the fact that Pacquiao RAN into it and when you run into a punch u dont see, you are going to sleep..
Steroids aint got shit to do with this KO.
This is true...the only thing that had to do with this ko was a lucky punch. He wasn't even looking where he was throwing it.
Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?
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Originally Posted by
15rounder
He wasn't even looking where he was throwing it.
Neither was Manny.
GROUND CONTROL TO MAJOR PACQUIAO, COME IN MAJOR PACQUIAO.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...
Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?
#1, i'm just trying to get under the dudes skin...especially since he's one of those "marquez beat pac 3 times" guys...get the fuck outta town
#2, I do find it funny that after whining, pissing and moaning for a 3rd and 4th fight (which pac didn't have to give him), he's staying extremely silent on a 5th
Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?
I'll go with Eric Morales opinion on this.
Re: Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?
