Just like the illusion that is your boxing knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
its a marketing illusionQuote:
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Just like the illusion that is your boxing knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44its a marketing illusionQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
ha jesusQuote:
Originally Posted by VendettosJust like the illusion that is your boxing knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44its a marketing illusionQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
is that the end of our debate then?
Sorry mate, let me clear this up.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44ha jesusQuote:
Originally Posted by VendettosJust like the illusion that is your boxing knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44its a marketing illusionQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
is that the end of our debate then?
I am a fairly open minded guy, I take people's opinions and points and if they're right and I am wrong, then I take it on the chin and I am happy that I've learned something in the argument.
Or if the person is wrong and disagrees with me but still accepts my points to an extent while sticking by their own, I respect that even if I disagree with them.
But then there are people so blatantly wrong and unwilling to listen to anything but the voices of the unjustly large egos they've created inside their unfathomably small heads. These people get swiftly dropped from the appointments they had with my patience.
You fit somewhere between scenario 2-3.
I will add that this is not intended as an insult, it's just honesty.
honestly pal, I would say that currently you are closer to number 3Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosSorry mate, let me clear this up.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44ha jesusQuote:
Originally Posted by VendettosJust like the illusion that is your boxing knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44its a marketing illusionQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
is that the end of our debate then?
I am a fairly open minded guy, I take people's opinions and points and if they're right and I am wrong, then I take it on the chin and I am happy that I've learned something in the argument.
Or if the person is wrong and disagrees with me but still accepts my points to an extent while sticking by their own, I respect that even if I disagree with them.
But then there are people so blatantly wrong and unwilling to listen to anything but the voices of the unjustly large egos they've created inside their unfathomably small heads. These people get swiftly dropped from the appointments they had with my patience.
You fit somewhere between scenario 2-3.
I will add that this is not intended as an insult, it's just honesty.
I am willing to hear your point and perhaps consider you dropping somewhere nearer to number 2, but so far you have said nothing to back anything up you have said
all you have said is groves has fought better fighters than degale, I don't agree, I believe their opposition has been very similar and if anything degales has been slightly tougher
I think the only reason groves is above degale in the rankings is because of their fight (which is understandable)
It's not just for the fact that he's knocking people out, it's the experience he gained from fighting a Glen Johnson, or the excellent knockout of one of the top British fighters of the division in Paul Smith.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44honestly pal, I would say that currently you are closer to number 3Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosSorry mate, let me clear this up.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44ha jesusQuote:
Originally Posted by VendettosJust like the illusion that is your boxing knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44its a marketing illusionQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
is that the end of our debate then?
I am a fairly open minded guy, I take people's opinions and points and if they're right and I am wrong, then I take it on the chin and I am happy that I've learned something in the argument.
Or if the person is wrong and disagrees with me but still accepts my points to an extent while sticking by their own, I respect that even if I disagree with them.
But then there are people so blatantly wrong and unwilling to listen to anything but the voices of the unjustly large egos they've created inside their unfathomably small heads. These people get swiftly dropped from the appointments they had with my patience.
You fit somewhere between scenario 2-3.
I will add that this is not intended as an insult, it's just honesty.
I am willing to hear your point and perhaps consider you dropping somewhere nearer to number 2, but so far you have said nothing to back anything up you have said
all you have said is groves has fought better fighters than degale, I don't agree, I believe their opposition has been very similar and if anything degales has been slightly tougher
I think the only reason groves is above degale in the rankings is because of their fight (which is understandable)
Or again maybe the knockout of a heavy puncher in Sierra?
I don't see how the guys DeGale fought are better when HALF of the guys he fought since Groves were coming off of losses mate, come on.
You just have to look. You wanna fight for a world title but your fighting unknown fighters coming off of losses?
Only 1 of Groves opponents since Degale came in off a loss and that was Johnson, the rest all came into fight groves after a win and he KOd them all.
Maybe.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fenster
I personally think Groves has looked much more solid over the last year or so. A year ago I thought he had zero chance against Froch, now I think it could be a good fight.
I just think Groves is a far better fighter than DeGay ,Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterMaybe.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fenster
I personally think Groves has looked much more solid over the last year or so. A year ago I thought he had zero chance against Froch, now I think it could be a good fight.
DeGay still throws the over hand shot like he is swinging an axe , he is one paced and average for my money.
I have warmed to De Gale since he has been on channel 5. he only just lost to Groves and the fight could have gone either way. I think both have progressed well for the limited fights they have had and there is no way De Gale will get a fight with Froch as he is with another promoter. He has been interviewed in boxing news this week and his best bet would be Biko.
You mean with Sakio Bika? I can like that fight for him. It's a BIG step up. But Bika is beatable, he punches hard, but very beatable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Bika's last outing vs. Perriban showed me that after all of these years, Bika's skill level is going to be what it is- like a Ricardo Mayorga. Very awkward and very wild.
If Degale boxes and moves then this can be a very easy UD for a belt for him.
that would set up a good fight with Froch/Groves or even the middleweights below like Macklin and Murray.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaYou mean with Sakio Bika? I can like that fight for him. It's a BIG step up. But Bika is beatable, he punches hard, but very beatable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Bika's last outing vs. Perriban showed me that after all of these years, Bika's skill level is going to be what it is- like a Ricardo Mayorga. Very awkward and very wild.
If Degale boxes and moves then this can be a very easy UD for a belt for him.
James Degale's gob is pretty aggressive, that's about it.
Groves has come on leaps and bounds since their fight, and Froch has no good reason to give him a shot.
He's a nightclub fighter who just picked the wrong promoter because he thought it would be easy life, then he met George Groves. He will never recover from that because of Groves significant improvements in performance since.
Master fight selection and judgement by Adam Booth at the time I think, yet again he stuffs one up Warren.
DeGay made his pro debut as Olympic champion and he was booed by a British crowd in his first fight.
That sums him up for me , he just isnt that good a pro , doesn't fight enough and he thinks he is way better than he actually is.
ya.. He's like a C level fighter and has very low boxing IQ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
I remember him talking so much shit about Groves. He sounds pretty stupid
he was booed because he is a nob, not really anything to do with his boxing abilityQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by erics44he was booed because he is a nob, not really anything to do with his boxing abilityQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
He was booed because he talks big and fights like a twat.