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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Yeah but MP Promotions is just a company title, not a true promotional company. It takes a lot of capital, know-how and man-power to pull off a show on the scale of a Mayweather or Pacquaio PPV extravaganza. If it was easy, every fighter with a name would be doing it.

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1st)MP Productions does cards, small cards so it's not paper it's just small time.

2)I'm not saying he should do the actual promotion. When he signs to fight a GBP fighter they can take the lead, when he signs to fight a TR fighter they can do the promotion. Both sides want the event to be a success so they will gladly promote it. You just don't pay them. Like Floyd does with GBP. GBP gets to put on huge cards that promote their company and Floyd fights under his small scale promotion name so he doesn't have to pay. Manny could get that same free promotion because it's worth it for the big promoters for relevance.

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So if GBP and TR were to potentially spend millions to promote a MPP event they would be doing so without earning revenue from any source whatsoever that MPP couldn't otherwise get their hands on? Doesn't seem to add up mate .

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Originally Posted by jahmez

There's no way Manny is leaving Bob. Bob's proven himself a fucking genius with the way he's brought along Manny. The bloke can still barely understand English, is ugly, small, from a relatively unknown country and has an almost unpronounceable surname yet he's reached levels of worldwide acclaim held by only a few Asian males in history let alone true sportstars. If Manny were to leave Bob for a few extra millions at Mayweather's whim he'd be a bigger douche bag than even El Cooning Boring Boxer himself.

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We aren't talking about a few extra mill. For instance Floyd told Bob he wanted 8 mill for Margie, 10 mill for Cotto and 15 for Osscar. Bob said the money wasn't there so Floyd walked. Dan Rafael has this exchange in his archives anyone can view it.

Floyd ended up with 25 million for Oscar and 40 million for Cotto. That's 45 million more than what Bob said wasn't there. It doesn't take a genius to figure out how Bob rolls. His own fighters have to sue him just to see their numbers. Why is not even remotely difficult to figure out.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Yeah but MP Promotions is just a company title, not a true promotional company. It takes a lot of capital, know-how and man-power to pull off a show on the scale of a Mayweather or Pacquaio PPV extravaganza. If it was easy, every fighter with a name would be doing it.

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1st)MP Productions does cards, small cards so it's not paper it's just small time.

2)I'm not saying he should do the actual promotion. When he signs to fight a GBP fighter they can take the lead, when he signs to fight a TR fighter they can do the promotion. Both sides want the event to be a success so they will gladly promote it. You just don't pay them. Like Floyd does with GBP. GBP gets to put on huge cards that promote their company and Floyd fights under his small scale promotion name so he doesn't have to pay. Manny could get that same free promotion because it's worth it for the big promoters for relevance.

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So if GBP and TR were to potentially spend millions to promote a MPP event they would be doing so without earning revenue from any source whatsoever that MPP couldn't otherwise get their hands on? Doesn't seem to add up mate .

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They collect on the B side and rake on crosss promotions. There are near 100 different revenue streams to go into a major event. Their percentage of a fighters take is generally tiny compared to those other revenue streams. People have no clue how much a big fight really makes, it's staggering.

No Manny Pacquiao vs Bobby Pacaquiao for the right to eat Manny pet dog?

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by jahmez

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Yeah but MP Promotions is just a company title, not a true promotional company. It takes a lot of capital, know-how and man-power to pull off a show on the scale of a Mayweather or Pacquaio PPV extravaganza. If it was easy, every fighter with a name would be doing it.

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1st)MP Productions does cards, small cards so it's not paper it's just small time.

2)I'm not saying he should do the actual promotion. When he signs to fight a GBP fighter they can take the lead, when he signs to fight a TR fighter they can do the promotion. Both sides want the event to be a success so they will gladly promote it. You just don't pay them. Like Floyd does with GBP. GBP gets to put on huge cards that promote their company and Floyd fights under his small scale promotion name so he doesn't have to pay. Manny could get that same free promotion because it's worth it for the big promoters for relevance.

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So if GBP and TR were to potentially spend millions to promote a MPP event they would be doing so without earning revenue from any source whatsoever that MPP couldn't otherwise get their hands on? Doesn't seem to add up mate .

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They collect on the B side and rake on crosss promotions. There are near 100 different revenue streams to go into a major event. Their percentage of a fighters take is generally tiny compared to those other revenue streams. People have no clue how much a big fight really makes, it's staggering.

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Perhaps so but there is no way GBP is promoting a fight for TMT or any other party for free. Somewhere along the line it is costing that party, be it in actual terms or opportunity cost. Nobody plays getaway driver without getting a cut of the loot.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Yeah but MP Promotions is just a company title, not a true promotional company. It takes a lot of capital, know-how and man-power to pull off a show on the scale of a Mayweather or Pacquaio PPV extravaganza. If it was easy, every fighter with a name would be doing it.

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1st)MP Productions does cards, small cards so it's not paper it's just small time.

2)I'm not saying he should do the actual promotion. When he signs to fight a GBP fighter they can take the lead, when he signs to fight a TR fighter they can do the promotion. Both sides want the event to be a success so they will gladly promote it. You just don't pay them. Like Floyd does with GBP. GBP gets to put on huge cards that promote their company and Floyd fights under his small scale promotion name so he doesn't have to pay. Manny could get that same free promotion because it's worth it for the big promoters for relevance.

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So if GBP and TR were to potentially spend millions to promote a MPP event they would be doing so without earning revenue from any source whatsoever that MPP couldn't otherwise get their hands on? Doesn't seem to add up mate .

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They collect on the B side and rake on crosss promotions. There are near 100 different revenue streams to go into a major event. Their percentage of a fighters take is generally tiny compared to those other revenue streams. People have no clue how much a big fight really makes, it's staggering.

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Perhaps so but there is no way GBP is promoting a fight for TMT or any other party for free. Somewhere along the line it is costing that party, be it in actual terms or opportunity cost. Nobody plays getaway driver without getting a cut of the loot.

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The promoters are going to get paid one way or another. It's just a matter of if the fighter needs to give them a cut of theirs. Manny is big enough he provides a platform that is profitable without a cut of his.

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Originally Posted by jahmez

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You are wise my friend. How much more money could Manny have made. A fight then a rematch with Floyd could have retired Manny with tons of money in his pocket. I guess we'll be hearing about a JMM rematch soon.