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And all stomach as well. :lickish:
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Originally Posted by Hulk
And all stomach as well. :lickish:
Well it takes more than size and strength to beat a guy like Floyd obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
But for all his size and strength, he lost to Felix, who had only been at 154 for a little over a year. Oscar, who had just jumped up to 154 (Fernando was supposed to be too big for Oscar), Shane Mosley x2, who had his best days a LW and was a natural WW, and Ricardo Mayorga, a WW.
So why are we talking like he's going to beat Floyd ass because Floyd is a WW? Fernardo has a long history of getting his ass beat by WWs.
Love Mayorga but it's not fair to count his win against Vargas when discussing his prime. Vargas was very much damaged goods even when he fought Mosley.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerWell it takes more than size and strength to beat a guy like Floyd obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
But for all his size and strength, he lost to Felix, who had only been at 154 for a little over a year. Oscar, who had just jumped up to 154 (Fernando was supposed to be too big for Oscar), Shane Mosley x2, who had his best days a LW and was a natural WW, and Ricardo Mayorga, a WW.
So why are we talking like he's going to beat Floyd ass because Floyd is a WW? Fernardo has a long history of getting his ass beat by WWs.
A prime Oscar probably beats Floyd at welter. Tito could very well get outboxed or land a bomb at that weight. Floyd wouldn't hurt either much to discourage them.
I am indeed exaggerating on this one. It is not the craziest post ever on Saddo's. It is not even in the top 25. But I still don't think Vargas in his prime could deal with Floyd's speed (when Floyd was in his prime too). It could go a split decision for Floyd, but I cant see Fernando catching Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterBrock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I completely agree Master that Vargas would wipe up the floor with Canelo.
Floyd would be too small and not hit hard enough to keep a prime Vargas which is pre Tito damaged him with those hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustI am indeed exaggerating on this one. It is not the craziest post ever on Saddo's. It is not even in the top 25. But I still don't think Vargas in his prime could deal with Floyd's speed (when Floyd was in his prime too). It could go a split decision for Floyd, but I cant see Fernando catching Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterBrock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I completely agree Master that Vargas would wipe up the floor with Canelo.
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Originally Posted by MasterFloyd would be too small and not hit hard enough to keep a prime Vargas which is pre Tito damaged him with those hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustI am indeed exaggerating on this one. It is not the craziest post ever on Saddo's. It is not even in the top 25. But I still don't think Vargas in his prime could deal with Floyd's speed (when Floyd was in his prime too). It could go a split decision for Floyd, but I cant see Fernando catching Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterBrock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I completely agree Master that Vargas would wipe up the floor with Canelo.
Floyd could never KO Vargas. Ever. Floyd hasnt KOed anyone since 2005. I do NOT count the Ortiz KO as a KO. It was a CHEAT-O
So you agree Floyd will not hurt Vargas, so other than marginal speed what does Floyd have to beat Fernando?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFloyd would be too small and not hit hard enough to keep a prime Vargas which is pre Tito damaged him with those hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustI am indeed exaggerating on this one. It is not the craziest post ever on Saddo's. It is not even in the top 25. But I still don't think Vargas in his prime could deal with Floyd's speed (when Floyd was in his prime too). It could go a split decision for Floyd, but I cant see Fernando catching Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterBrock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I completely agree Master that Vargas would wipe up the floor with Canelo.
Floyd could never KO Vargas. Ever. Floyd hasnt KOed anyone since 2005. I do NOT count the Ortiz KO as a KO. It was a CHEAT-O