Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas

[holmcall]

Vargas was a very good fighter. Better than Canelo so far.

Arreola is all heart so show some respect.

And all stomach as well.

[Beanflicker]

How could Vargas beat Floyd?

Um....on SIZE and STRENGTH. Duh.

Throw in the world class talent he had and that is a very steep mountain for Floyd to climb.

Well it takes more than size and strength to beat a guy like Floyd obviously.

But for all his size and strength, he lost to Felix, who had only been at 154 for a little over a year. Oscar, who had just jumped up to 154 (Fernando was supposed to be too big for Oscar), Shane Mosley x2, who had his best days a LW and was a natural WW, and Ricardo Mayorga, a WW.

So why are we talking like he's going to beat Floyd ass because Floyd is a WW? Fernardo has a long history of getting his ass beat by WWs.

[Hulk]

How could Vargas beat Floyd?

Um....on SIZE and STRENGTH. Duh.

Throw in the world class talent he had and that is a very steep mountain for Floyd to climb.

Well it takes more than size and strength to beat a guy like Floyd obviously.

But for all his size and strength, he lost to Felix, who had only been at 154 for a little over a year. Oscar, who had just jumped up to 154 (Fernando was supposed to be too big for Oscar), Shane Mosley x2, who had his best days a LW and was a natural WW, and Ricardo Mayorga, a WW.

So why are we talking like he's going to beat Floyd ass because Floyd is a WW? Fernardo has a long history of getting his ass beat by WWs.

Love Mayorga but it's not fair to count his win against Vargas when discussing his prime. Vargas was very much damaged goods even when he fought Mosley.

A prime Oscar probably beats Floyd at welter. Tito could very well get outboxed or land a bomb at that weight. Floyd wouldn't hurt either much to discourage them.

[brocktonblockbust]

Vargas couldnt beat Floyd in a million years. That is the most outrageous thing I ever heard on this forum. Literally. Vargas couldnt beat Trinidad, whose boxing skills are mediocre (ODLH and WRight completely and easily outboxed Tito), and Vargas couldnt beat Tito.

How on EARTH would Vargas beat the Boxing Wizard mayweather again, itas the MOST RIDICULOUS thing I ever read on this forum. Literally.

Brock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.

I am indeed exaggerating on this one. It is not the craziest post ever on Saddo's. It is not even in the top 25. But I still don't think Vargas in his prime could deal with Floyd's speed (when Floyd was in his prime too). It could go a split decision for Floyd, but I cant see Fernando catching Floyd.

I completely agree Master that Vargas would wipe up the floor with Canelo.

[Master]

Vargas couldnt beat Floyd in a million years. That is the most outrageous thing I ever heard on this forum. Literally. Vargas couldnt beat Trinidad, whose boxing skills are mediocre (ODLH and WRight completely and easily outboxed Tito), and Vargas couldnt beat Tito.

How on EARTH would Vargas beat the Boxing Wizard mayweather again, itas the MOST RIDICULOUS thing I ever read on this forum. Literally.

Brock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.

I am indeed exaggerating on this one. It is not the craziest post ever on Saddo's. It is not even in the top 25. But I still don't think Vargas in his prime could deal with Floyd's speed (when Floyd was in his prime too). It could go a split decision for Floyd, but I cant see Fernando catching Floyd.

I completely agree Master that Vargas would wipe up the floor with Canelo.

Floyd would be too small and not hit hard enough to keep a prime Vargas which is pre Tito damaged him with those hands.

[brocktonblockbust]

Vargas couldnt beat Floyd in a million years. That is the most outrageous thing I ever heard on this forum. Literally. Vargas couldnt beat Trinidad, whose boxing skills are mediocre (ODLH and WRight completely and easily outboxed Tito), and Vargas couldnt beat Tito.

How on EARTH would Vargas beat the Boxing Wizard mayweather again, itas the MOST RIDICULOUS thing I ever read on this forum. Literally.

Brock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.

I am indeed exaggerating on this one. It is not the craziest post ever on Saddo's. It is not even in the top 25. But I still don't think Vargas in his prime could deal with Floyd's speed (when Floyd was in his prime too). It could go a split decision for Floyd, but I cant see Fernando catching Floyd.

I completely agree Master that Vargas would wipe up the floor with Canelo.

Floyd would be too small and not hit hard enough to keep a prime Vargas which is pre Tito damaged him with those hands.

Floyd could never KO Vargas. Ever. Floyd hasnt KOed anyone since 2005. I do NOT count the Ortiz KO as a KO. It was a CHEAT-O

[Master]

Vargas couldnt beat Floyd in a million years. That is the most outrageous thing I ever heard on this forum. Literally. Vargas couldnt beat Trinidad, whose boxing skills are mediocre (ODLH and WRight completely and easily outboxed Tito), and Vargas couldnt beat Tito.

How on EARTH would Vargas beat the Boxing Wizard mayweather again, itas the MOST RIDICULOUS thing I ever read on this forum. Literally.

Brock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.

I am indeed exaggerating on this one. It is not the craziest post ever on Saddo's. It is not even in the top 25. But I still don't think Vargas in his prime could deal with Floyd's speed (when Floyd was in his prime too). It could go a split decision for Floyd, but I cant see Fernando catching Floyd.

I completely agree Master that Vargas would wipe up the floor with Canelo.

Floyd would be too small and not hit hard enough to keep a prime Vargas which is pre Tito damaged him with those hands.

Floyd could never KO Vargas. Ever. Floyd hasnt KOed anyone since 2005. I do NOT count the Ortiz KO as a KO. It was a CHEAT-O

So you agree Floyd will not hurt Vargas, so other than marginal speed what does Floyd have to beat Fernando?