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Groves is a not overrated he's world class, Froch beat him with his grit and determination because
he was being out boxed and took a good bit of punishment.
It shows Froch has very good chin, but again it showed he can be out boxed but he will be there
for 12 hard rounds.
Froch is good fighter and all but people are saying Jones, Ali and Foreman when talking about the guy kinda silly don't you think. He is a good fighter who i think will make hof his resume pretty good but at the end of the day he was never top dog. I am not sure how this rematch will go but it will be good.
If froch knocked ward out after this fight and added the WBC and ring belt would you guys think that would guarantee a hall of fame spot?
Well i mean it is kinda hard because Froch was never really famous or ever the man in his own division. At his age he sure as shit won't do it now already lost Ward and he is tied with Kessler need a rubber match figure that out. The man fucked around and wasted a lot of his career before fighting a champ. Taylor was never good at smw and just got owned by Pavlik twice, German dude yet another mw with Miranda as his best win. Kessler and Pascal are his best wins really and Kessler beat him after coming off a loss and was easily handled way early in his prime by a Old Calzaghe. Pascal first time stepping up but went on to do good things until losing to Hopkins which no shame in. Tell me does being in one division where for must of it weren't even fighting for a trinket and never was top guy make you hof worthy.
Royal Mail could of dispatched Andre Dirrell easier than Carl did
Yes of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
Those are not like for like comparisons, just like Groves is nothing like Gatti. If anything Froch is more like Gatti and Froch is not really like Gatti much at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
The doubters who have been put to silence are virtually everyone on Earth when Groves suggested that he would meet Froch in the centre of the ring and batter him round after round. You are trying to turn it all on it's head.
Beanz have you ever seen Gatti fight/stance/??? Groves fights esxactly like Gatti. Low left hand, right hand up to the chin, wide stance, crouching, long range bombs, wide punches, shifting his balance rapidly and incessantly from one foot to the other, he fights and ACTS exactly like Gatti. Groves is way overrated. He is a rough-houser with a good jab but his punches also lack POP. Or will you say Froch has granite in his chin? Surely frocjh shoulda been KTFO after so many overhand rights gfrom Groves right on the button. Surely.!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzThose are not like for like comparisons, just like Groves is nothing like Gatti. If anything Froch is more like Gatti and Froch is not really like Gatti much at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
The doubters who have been put to silence are virtually everyone on Earth when Groves suggested that he would meet Froch in the centre of the ring and batter him round after round. You are trying to turn it all on it's head.
I think Froch is going to get stopped. 6-7 round range.
damn really? I see it that Froch will exact revenge for getting a nice pounding last timeQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyV297
Of course Froch has a granite chin that is why despite getting smacked in the head and mouth for 10 years by top class opposition he has never been knocked out. It cant last forever though and Groves has more than enough pop to stop him. Describing Groves as a rough Houser with a good jab is seriously under rating his boxing ability. Personally I still think Groves is nothing like Gatti.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustBeanz have you ever seen Gatti fight/stance/??? Groves fights esxactly like Gatti. Low left hand, right hand up to the chin, wide stance, crouching, long range bombs, wide punches, shifting his balance rapidly and incessantly from one foot to the other, he fights and ACTS exactly like Gatti. Groves is way overrated. He is a rough-houser with a good jab but his punches also lack POP. Or will you say Froch has granite in his chin? Surely frocjh shoulda been KTFO after so many overhand rights gfrom Groves right on the button. Surely.!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzThose are not like for like comparisons, just like Groves is nothing like Gatti. If anything Froch is more like Gatti and Froch is not really like Gatti much at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
The doubters who have been put to silence are virtually everyone on Earth when Groves suggested that he would meet Froch in the centre of the ring and batter him round after round. You are trying to turn it all on it's head.
as i said, he has a bit of a left hook, but his punches are shite. I am always right. EAT IT:cool::cool:
Of course. But it's highly unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
How are you right? You said George was WAY overrated and only had a punchers chance yet the 2nd best guy at 168lbs went life and death with him twice. His punchers chance had him well ahead in the first fight and had it pretty even in the 2nd. Questioning his chin and stamina would be fine but there should be no question marks about his skill level.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
life and death??? hahahaha First fight ol' Carl was just warmin' up. Took him a few rounds then he lowered the fucking boom. Same way Lennox took apart Vitali. Those aging Greats sometimes dont take fights seriously enough/dont train hard enough, and they pay a price for it like Lewis did against Vitali or Carl did the 1st fight with Groves. BUT COME ON WAKE THE FUCK UP... YOU CALL THE 2ND FIGHT "LIFE AND DEATH"???? HAHAHAHA groves only won 2 rounds, one even, at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnHow are you right? You said George was WAY overrated and only had a punchers chance yet the 2nd best guy at 168lbs went life and death with him twice. His punchers chance had him well ahead in the first fight and had it pretty even in the 2nd. Questioning his chin and stamina would be fine but there should be no question marks about his skill level.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust