Those are not like for like comparisons, just like Groves is nothing like Gatti. If anything Froch is more like Gatti and Froch is not really like Gatti much at all.
The doubters who have been put to silence are virtually everyone on Earth when Groves suggested that he would meet Froch in the centre of the ring and batter him round after round. You are trying to turn it all on it's head.
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