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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Also I posted this video about a month or 2 back.
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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Also I posted this video about a month or 2 back.
Bro you either have the skills in your brain or you don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by La Cucaracha
Bernard Hopkins is 50 and was hopeless vs Kov but he was still rolling and slipping punches like a champ because thats what he does.
What, did Willie Pep forget how to defend himself in the plane crash? ;D
Mayweather all day he's the best defensive fighter there's ever been and that's why I think no one beats him ever prime for prime
People bring up guys like Pep and Benitez, and don't get me wrong they were fantastic fighters and very slick, but they were guys who needed to control range and didn't have the skills to survive on the inside, which is why they were both knocked out several times. They're not even in the same discussion, they're "honourable mentions".
Did you miss the part about Pep being seriously injured? There were fears he wouldn't walk again and if I remember correctly many thought that was the end of his career ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerBro you either have the skills in your brain or you don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by La Cucaracha
Bernard Hopkins is 50 and was hopeless vs Kov but he was still rolling and slipping punches like a champ because thats what he does.
What, did Willie Pep forget how to defend himself in the plane crash? ;D
The point was his body had been damaged and he wasn't the same fighter :-\
Pernell was the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaWhitaker was brilliant at his best :)Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Thanks for the links, I just mentioned Niccolino Loche as a fighter from the past who had skills. It is almost as if most of todays fight fans feel ALL fighters from the past were brutes with no skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
This is one of my favorite compilation on Loche which proves otherwise. Oh & the music score is pretty slick as well!!
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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Not sure there is a right or wrong answer. Personally I dont think Floyd survives the Pep era and I think Saddler beats him up but Saddler would not get away with his dirty tactics today. Pep was only stopped 6 times in close to 250 fights and most of those came late in his career. His peak record was 135-1-1. Floyd is fresh in peoples minds because of the now effect but go back and take a look at Benitez's career and prime prior to his road to self destruction. Every bit as good as Floyd in every measure and made his opponents pay more. He's included in this first compilation. The guy was incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ct2jCu7y9Y
And in part two just take a peak at how slick even Walcott was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Pw2elzBik
And Brock we shouldn't forget this man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81non05aKX4
or even this guy. Many think George was the best ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwYnF8SWNjs
Sumbu Kalambay had great defence :cool:
I think this post from Beans can only be viewed as the utter truth and has been worded very sympathetically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Pep, Benitez and yes Sweet Pea were solid defensive fighters.
But Floyd is on another level. Floyd is possibly my most hated boxer to be honest but to deny his real quality here is pointless.
He is the best defensive fighter of all time and it isn't even close.
That is a respectable opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerI think this post from Beans can only be viewed as the utter truth and has been worded very sympathetically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Pep, Benitez and yes Sweet Pea were solid defensive fighters.
But Floyd is on another level. Floyd is possibly my most hated boxer to be honest but to deny his real quality here is pointless.
He is the best defensive fighter of all time and it isn't even close.
flicker must love the way you gurgle his nuts :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerI think this post from Beans can only be viewed as the utter truth and has been worded very sympathetically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Pep, Benitez and yes Sweet Pea were solid defensive fighters.
But Floyd is on another level. Floyd is possibly my most hated boxer to be honest but to deny his real quality here is pointless.
He is the best defensive fighter of all time and it isn't even close.
The only thing that isn't even close is you getting some pussy ;)
Ah come on, why you wanna be a bully?Quote:
Originally Posted by La Cucaracha
Blowing out Max Power's candle isn't going to make yours shine any brighter.
Stating stuff like "utter truth" is just ridiculous ;) "He is the best defensive fighter of all time and it isn't even close" :-\ come on son, trolls should stay under the bridge :pQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerAh come on, why you wanna be a bully?Quote:
Originally Posted by La Cucaracha
Blowing out Max Power's candle isn't going to make yours shine any brighter.