Re: Was Stiverne worse of a HW Champ than Spinks and Buster?
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SlimTrae
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ykdadamaja
No one could be worse than Douglas. This is what happens with newly crowned champions... they enjoy their money for a little while and forget to train up for the fights ahead.
Same thing happened to Vernon Forrest, Buster Douglas, Neon Leon, Shannon Briggs, Lennox Lewis the first time around, and a host of others....
I felt kinda bad for Stiverne being matched with Wilder for his first defence. Should have given him a much more beatable opponent...
Some here claimed wilder fought 32 tomato cans...how much easier of a contender did he need? LOL.
Good point. I never was one that claimed Wilder was a tomato can, though. I always regarded him as a legitimate fighter. I felt, however, he starletted his way into a title fight without earning it.
Whatever it is that happened to Stiverne that night, I hope he fixes it.
Re: Was Stiverne worse of a HW Champ than Spinks and Buster?
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ykdadamaja
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SlimTrae
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ykdadamaja
No one could be worse than Douglas. This is what happens with newly crowned champions... they enjoy their money for a little while and forget to train up for the fights ahead.
Same thing happened to Vernon Forrest, Buster Douglas, Neon Leon, Shannon Briggs, Lennox Lewis the first time around, and a host of others....
I felt kinda bad for Stiverne being matched with Wilder for his first defence. Should have given him a much more beatable opponent...
Some here claimed wilder fought 32 tomato cans...how much easier of a contender did he need? LOL.
Good point. I never was one that claimed Wilder was a tomato can, though. I always regarded him as a legitimate fighter. I felt, however, he starletted his way into a title fight without earning it.
Whatever it is that happened to Stiverne that night, I hope he fixes it.
It seems they both had questions to answer LOL! Wilder answered his a bit better.
Re: Was Stiverne worse of a HW Champ than Spinks and Buster?
He is more like Botha and Sam Peter.
Re: Was Stiverne worse of a HW Champ than Spinks and Buster?
Stiverne was much better than Spinks or Buster LOL Get real!
He produced a dismal.. dismal.. effort though, no denying that!
Might as well of handed his title to Wilder.
What he attempted to do in round 12, he should have started no later than round 3!
Shit corner too! Like they weren't even watching there fighter or something!
Re: Was Stiverne worse of a HW Champ than Spinks and Buster?
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Max Power
Stiverne was much better than Spinks or Buster LOL Get real!
He produced a dismal.. dismal.. effort though, no denying that!
Might as well of handed his title to Wilder.
What he attempted to do in round 12, he should have started no later than round 3!
Shit corner too! Like they weren't even watching there fighter or something!
Let it go! The division is poor that I want to shoot their lazy and talentless asses.
Re: Was Stiverne worse of a HW Champ than Spinks and Buster?
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Master
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Max Power
Stiverne was much better than Spinks or Buster LOL Get real!
He produced a dismal.. dismal.. effort though, no denying that!
Might as well of handed his title to Wilder.
What he attempted to do in round 12, he should have started no later than round 3!
Shit corner too! Like they weren't even watching there fighter or something!
Let it go! The division is poor that I want to shoot their lazy and talentless asses.
Nobody mentioned anything about the quality of the division.
Meaningless stab in the dark there.
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Oleg Maskaev wasn't all that great a champ neither was Sam Peter neither was Shannon Briggs
Re: Was Stiverne worse of a HW Champ than Spinks and Buster?
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Max Power
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Master
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Originally Posted by
Max Power
Stiverne was much better than Spinks or Buster LOL Get real!
He produced a dismal.. dismal.. effort though, no denying that!
Might as well of handed his title to Wilder.
What he attempted to do in round 12, he should have started no later than round 3!
Shit corner too! Like they weren't even watching there fighter or something!
Let it go! The division is poor that I want to shoot their lazy and talentless asses.
Nobody mentioned anything about the quality of the division.
Meaningless stab in the dark there.
I did and it is poor.
Re: Was Stiverne worse of a HW Champ than Spinks and Buster?
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Master
I did and it is poor.
....but the champ ain't ;)
Re: Was Stiverne worse of a HW Champ than Spinks and Buster?
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brocktonblockbust
I think we can nominate Stiverne as rivaling the caliber of Leon Neon Spinks and Buster Douglas as a HW Champ.
No excuses, I like Stiverne, but he did seem a bit "out of it" (maybe because of eating so many straight rights from the big punching Wilder) but did you see his non-existent footwork after round 6? He stood squared-up, no head movement, never even tried to duck under any shots that I saw, didn't make a fuck of a lotta sense to me.
The fat shit looked woefully out of shape to me as well, pudgy, sluggish, waddling like a duck.
Pudgy, sluggish, waddling like a duck. Seriously, wtf? happened to him? he's right he was "flat"----
though I would say more like "fat" bwahaha
How hard did this dude train for Wilder? You're going in against a chiseled 29 year old Adonis with a big cock and a small head, shoulders like Atlas, 32 KOs------ Stiverne looked like he was in the shape to fight a buffet table at an all-you-can-eat Mexican restaurant.
bad conditioning, and even WORSE FIGHT PLAN.
At least Spinks and Douglas were in shape for at least 1 fight and both beat legends.
