Was Stiverne worse of a HW Champ than Spinks and Buster?

[ykdadamaja]

No one could be worse than Douglas. This is what happens with newly crowned champions... they enjoy their money for a little while and forget to train up for the fights ahead.

Same thing happened to Vernon Forrest, Buster Douglas, Neon Leon, Shannon Briggs, Lennox Lewis the first time around, and a host of others....

I felt kinda bad for Stiverne being matched with Wilder for his first defence. Should have given him a much more beatable opponent...

[SlimTrae]

Losing to an in shape 6'7 power puncher doesn't make him bad.

If we're going by fighters who lost the belt quickly then the 1980's has quite a few of those.
Remember 1990's Tyson beat Bruce Seldon who won a vacant title & took 10 rounds to stop joe hipp, then got dropped by what punch from tyson?

Stiverne cant be worse than that.

He got beat by a fighter that will make u look bad.

[IamInuit]

No one could be worse than Douglas. This is what happens with newly crowned champions... they enjoy their money for a little while and forget to train up for the fights ahead.

Same thing happened to Vernon Forrest, Buster Douglas, Neon Leon, Shannon Briggs, Lennox Lewis the first time around, and a host of others....

I felt kinda bad for Stiverne being matched with Wilder for his first defence. Should have given him a much more beatable opponent...

He fought Manswall and knocked him out in 2 and won,

The WBC International (because "world" is not enough)
The WBC USA Title
and The WBA Fedelatin title(because there are so many Latino heavyweights)

He unfortunately missed out on the Oceana version, the Paba, Fedecentro, Fedecaribre, Europe and Africa. To many belts, to little time.

He then beat Austin for the second place errrr silver WBC which somehow set up a full title eliminator with Arreola in defense of the silver or in layman's terms the right to be called #1 contender for a vacant belt. Then and I'm sure it has nothing to do with Arreolas relationship with the Sulaiman family Chris gets to fight the guy he just lost to for the WBC full title. Once Stiverne slabbed him, the WBC then forced the mandatory on him. Had Chris won, Mexico would have declared a National holiday and Chris would have been fighting optionals until retirement.

Confused? I am and I just typed it.

Anyway Bermane had to fight him.

[SlimTrae]

No one could be worse than Douglas. This is what happens with newly crowned champions... they enjoy their money for a little while and forget to train up for the fights ahead.

Same thing happened to Vernon Forrest, Buster Douglas, Neon Leon, Shannon Briggs, Lennox Lewis the first time around, and a host of others....

I felt kinda bad for Stiverne being matched with Wilder for his first defence. Should have given him a much more beatable opponent...

Some here claimed wilder fought 32 tomato cans...how much easier of a contender did he need? LOL.

[brocktonblockbust]

I give Wilder full credit, he won the fight cleanly and lop-sidedly. On another note, Wilder seems to generally suck. Whenever Stiverne teed-off on Wilder, he seemed to lose his balance on them skinny lil' legs pretty easily. If Stiverne wasnt such a waddling duck, if he could have thrown 4 or 5 punch combos on steady feet, Wilder;s chin was wide open for a KO.

Any decent HW like Klit, or even Haye, would KO the bum. Make no bones about it---

WILDER IS A BUM. and we just found out that Stiverne is even more of a bum.

[SlimTrae]

I give Wilder full credit, he won the fight cleanly and lop-sidedly. On another note, Wilder seems to generally suck. Whenever Stiverne teed-off on Wilder, he seemed to lose his balance on them skinny lil' legs pretty easily. If Stiverne wasnt such a waddling duck, if he could have thrown 4 or 5 punch combos on steady feet, Wilder;s chin was wide open for a KO.

Any decent HW like Klit, or even Haye, would KO the bum. Make no bones about it---

WILDER IS A BUM. and we just found out that Stiverne is even more of a bum.

Then call him king of the HW's aka (BUMS) Then that makes Wlad the Emperor of them LOL!

[El Kabong]

Oleg Maskaev wasn't all that great a champ neither was Sam Peter neither was Shannon Briggs

[ykdadamaja]

No one could be worse than Douglas. This is what happens with newly crowned champions... they enjoy their money for a little while and forget to train up for the fights ahead.

Same thing happened to Vernon Forrest, Buster Douglas, Neon Leon, Shannon Briggs, Lennox Lewis the first time around, and a host of others....

I felt kinda bad for Stiverne being matched with Wilder for his first defence. Should have given him a much more beatable opponent...

Some here claimed wilder fought 32 tomato cans...how much easier of a contender did he need? LOL.

Good point. I never was one that claimed Wilder was a tomato can, though. I always regarded him as a legitimate fighter. I felt, however, he starletted his way into a title fight without earning it.

Whatever it is that happened to Stiverne that night, I hope he fixes it.

[SlimTrae]

No one could be worse than Douglas. This is what happens with newly crowned champions... they enjoy their money for a little while and forget to train up for the fights ahead.

Same thing happened to Vernon Forrest, Buster Douglas, Neon Leon, Shannon Briggs, Lennox Lewis the first time around, and a host of others....

I felt kinda bad for Stiverne being matched with Wilder for his first defence. Should have given him a much more beatable opponent...

Some here claimed wilder fought 32 tomato cans...how much easier of a contender did he need? LOL.

Good point. I never was one that claimed Wilder was a tomato can, though. I always regarded him as a legitimate fighter. I felt, however, he starletted his way into a title fight without earning it.

Whatever it is that happened to Stiverne that night, I hope he fixes it.

It seems they both had questions to answer LOL! Wilder answered his a bit better.

[jon09]

He is more like Botha and Sam Peter.

[Max Power]

Stiverne was much better than Spinks or Buster LOL Get real!

He produced a dismal.. dismal.. effort though, no denying that!

Might as well of handed his title to Wilder.

What he attempted to do in round 12, he should have started no later than round 3!

Shit corner too! Like they weren't even watching there fighter or something!

[Master]

Stiverne was much better than Spinks or Buster LOL Get real!

He produced a dismal.. dismal.. effort though, no denying that!

Might as well of handed his title to Wilder.

What he attempted to do in round 12, he should have started no later than round 3!

Shit corner too! Like they weren't even watching there fighter or something!

Let it go! The division is poor that I want to shoot their lazy and talentless asses.