Ali winning the HW title 3 times is still more impressive than any multiple title hol

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Muhammad Ali

'Patty-Caked' his way to defeating an 'un-focused' and mentally confused Leon Spinks, who
had '3' different cornermen giving him instructions during the rematch.

Muhammad Ali didn't really fight > he slapped, held and ran his way to a victory.

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Well he did amazing well from doing that.

If it was that easy why don't other fighters try it?

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People degrade Floyd for the exact same reasons,he still makes the best opposition available look wanting in the process.

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Ever see clay ~slappy-ducky-sucky-slap~ against Earnie Shavers? Ernie just blocked all 14 slaps, smiled, shrugged his shoulders AND CAME 'BACK' throwing dynamite.

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I much prefer watching Shavers 'throw' everything at Quarry only to get flattened within ~less~ than a round.

Hardest 'puncher' in ~history~ was seemingly like 'water' off a duck's back for Quarry.
(Strangely he was stopped by Chuvalo, Frazier, Norton and 'patty cake' Ali, Shavers was a force... :rolleyes:)

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Ever see clay ~slappy-ducky-sucky-slap~ against Earnie Shavers? Ernie just blocked all 14 slaps, smiled, shrugged his shoulders AND CAME 'BACK' throwing dynamite.

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I much prefer watching Shavers 'throw' everything at Quarry only to get flattened within ~less~ than a round.

Hardest 'puncher' in ~history~ was seemingly like 'water' off a duck's back for Quarry.
(Strangely he was stopped by Chuvalo, Frazier, Norton and 'patty cake' Ali, Shavers was a force... :rolleyes:)

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Do 'not' disrespect The Black ~Destroyer~

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Originally Posted by Sleepwalker

Over the past 25 years or so, there have been many fighters winning titles multiple times (4-time welterweight champ, 6-time featherweight/jr lightweight champ......)

I've always felt the that Ali's 3-time title feat trumped any other fighter, including Henry Armstrong.

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Yeah, hey listen..... we all here tend to defend Ali against the likes of Billy Paxtom, who harbors a deep hatred of Ali and makes up stories of how Ali was really just a regular fighter. But let's keep it real. Ali's first two titles were hugely impressive. But losing to Leon Spinks had to be downright embarrassing. So winning the title back from Spinks, albeit in very unconvincing fashion, was pretty much meaningless, if not adding even more embarrassment (for not taking the toothless one out).

Facts are Facts

Losing to Leon Spinks may be the 'biggest' embarrassment in Boxing.

And not only getting your 'Coolie' beat around the Ring, but nearly getting KO'd in Round 15.

Let's not forget, Leon had only been fighting as a Professional for 13-Months, and only
had 7-Bouts under his belt.

'The Greatest My Ass'

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Facts are Facts

Losing to Leon Spinks may be the 'biggest' embarrassment in Boxing.

And not only getting your 'Coolie' beat around the Ring, but nearly getting KO'd in Round 15.

Let's not forget, Leon had only been fighting as a Professional for 13-Months, and only
had 7-Bouts under his belt.

'The Greatest My Ass'

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Didn't Ali look like complete shit in Ali-Norton 1? Unbelievable shit. 1973.

Foreman fought an unbelievably stupid fight against Ali. Talk about a stubborn, blockheaded fool, that was Foreman from the beginning to the end of that fight.
I like Foreman, always have, but that day his brain was stuck in double-stupid from all the Ali BS.
It took me as long to forgive Foreman as it took him to forgive himself! Lol
Eternally grateful I never bet on fights!!!!

Facts are Facts

Ali is the greatest not based on his fights with Spinks when he was old but on beating the monster Liston when no one gave him a chance, fighting in the biggest boxing event ever against Joe Frazier, beating the other monster Foreman and the brutal war with Frazier in Manilla.

No other fighter can list a better record than Muhammad Ali. Learn to live with it and maybe you can move on in your life. We will not think any less of you for it.