Re: How will Floyd's life be affected if he gets knocked out?
It's all a guess, we have no real way of knowing. But I'd think it all depends on what happens in the ring leading up to the KO. If something like what happened to Cotto or Hatton, then he'll probably go into some sort of depression, but knowing the Mayweather's reactions to everything, they see things a little different than the rest of the world so he may have some abstract way of absorbing the loss. If it's something like what happened to Pacquiao in the Marquez fight, e.g. just gets caught with one, then unless he turns completely mental, he should be able to bounce back.
I've been wondering with so many huge bets on Mayweather if they is any sort of watch on the judges to be selected from fixing the fight on the judges side. I also have to wonder if the Vegas insiders for the Bradley / Pacquiao fight knew something was up and why they gave peoples money back. One can easily see a couple of hundred thousand pooled moneys, to secure bets, could go to a judge's secret account. That kind of temptation would be hard for anyone to not score close rounds in a specific direction.
Re: How will Floyd's life be affected if he gets knocked out?
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Real boxing fans realise the art of boxing is too hit and not be hit.
Floyd does this better than anyone in this era.
Judge him for what he does in the ring and superb defence and a great chin will deflect any onslaught from manny pac.
Manny knows whats its like to be completely knocked out and he is probably more chinny than Amir khan.
Manny ko a post prime hatton and the world goes crazy.
5 losses later and even more cheating on his wife every pac fan wants to keep giving him a free pass like he's this godly Bruce lee wannabee...jeez
May the 3rd will be very busy with so many "I told you so" threads.
Or maybe the 3rd will be busy with "Is this the end for Manny" threads.
Personally I don't think a guy who threw the sink @ Juan Manual & Erik for well over 55 rounds & never stopped either with a single shot, will do it to Floyd @ this weight : IMO Erik quit in fight 3, just had enough. Fight 2-Manny just overwhelmed him with a high punch output & not by some hellatious one punch shot.
Great damn KO punch Manny landed on Hatton, but then again: Floyd is the only fighter in history to get 3 hits with one shot: one he hits Hatton, 2 Hatton hits the turnbuckle, then 3 falls & hits his head on the canvas.
Jesus & a few others be with manny if Floyd comes in over 150lbs. I just can't see Marquez or Morales being a harder puncher at 147 than Floyd. And one fight that really stands out to me was when Manny fought Oscar Larios & it went the distance. Reason being is he had one of the longest reach against Pac @ 69 1/2 or 70.
PBF has a 72 inch reach- Add that on to a safety first style. The stars will have to align up for many to pull a win off IMO.
Re: How will Floyd's life be affected if he gets knocked out?
The thing is that Manny has never been a KO artist anyway. The Hatton one was a one off. At the lower weights he stopped people with an accumulation and at the higher weights doesn't really stop people. But how easy is it to win rounds against Manny? It is bloody hard. It doesn't matter if he stops Floyd or not, he will be more active, landing more, and Floyd has been losing quite a few rounds by being outworked in recent fights. I don't think Floyd has the legs to stay off the ropes against Manny for 12 rounds which means that Manny will be in close for some of those rounds and he is fast, unpredictable and hard hitting. Reach matters but only if you can keep it in the middle and that is easier said than done. Mosley tried to box, but you still get outworked every round and it ends up being survival. Same with Barrera. Same with everyone unless you choose to fight and then you get stopped or end up looking like a Chinese sailor. Even in that last Marquez fight, Marquez was starting to lose it and it looked like Marquez was the one that had been worked out.
Re: How will Floyd's life be affected if he gets knocked out?
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Gandalf
The thing is that Manny has never been a KO artist anyway. The Hatton one was a one off.
I totally agree.
At the lower weights he stopped people with an accumulation and at the higher weights doesn't really stop people.
if I were to [assume] manny took PED's it would be for that reason- like with Shane whose peds gave him the ability to train harder- same with Pac- his power to me is real & authentic. Nothing synthetic about his power IMO. But his punch rate just isnt what it use to be. Could it be that if he took something, thats what it did? improve conditioning. Remember Floyd has never been outhustled, he has never been fatigued, and to think a Pac over the age of 30 will outgut is not reasonable to me.
But how easy is it to win rounds against Manny? It is bloody hard.
This is a good point, but then again the style that suits pac IMO is the aggressor, rarily has his resume had counter punchers. JMM being the best and that dude has won quite a few, especially when they were young. JMM got a draw with 3 knockdowns? Man thats a lot of rounds to win.
It doesn't matter if he stops Floyd or not, he will be more active, landing more, and Floyd has been losing quite a few rounds by being outworked in recent fights. I don't think Floyd has the legs to stay off the ropes against Manny for 12 rounds which means that Manny will be in close for some of those rounds and he is fast, unpredictable and hard hitting.
I remember Roach said Floyd's legs were shot fight one Maidana- PBF had a good response: I move, people will say I run, if I stand and trade they will say my legs are shot , so I lose no matter how I choose to win. Fight II Maidana, those legs looked mobile to me. And Pac just isnt really an agrresive fighter per se- He's a dart in & out kinda guy, looking to land from different angles when he darts in and out. So you think Pac can avoid those Floyd clinches? Ref may be a part in this you think? Pac will be able to thwart that elbow?
Reach matters but only if you can keep it in the middle and that is easier said than done. Mosley tried to box, but you still get outworked every round and it ends up being survival.
I respectfully disagree, Floyd uses his reach when and where he pleases. + Shane isn't a counter puncher IMO he is a boxer-puncher. + he's never really had a great jab, so his reach isnt used like Floyd's is. And Shane completely looked ordinary against PBF as well as Pac;
He stayed away from Pac pretty good to me. ( In regards to the punches Pac missed) .
True it lost him the fight, but if a shot Shane goes the distance & kept his distance to keep pac at 31% landing per punchstats- give or take a few; so, too, does PBF.
-I just looked up the punchstats PBF (208 landed) & Pac (224 landed) vs Shane
Pac threw 727 to get that. PBF threw 477 to get his.
Difference landed (16).
So yeah, Pac threw more, but if he only landed 31% against Shane, you think he can land that against Floyd? He'll have to throw 1,000 to get that percentage. And he aint Margarito or Paul Williams. Nor is he under the age of 30. He dont throw 1,000 punches per fight.
Same with Barrera. Same with everyone unless you choose to fight and then you get stopped or end up looking like a Chinese sailor. Even in that last Marquez fight, Marquez was starting to lose it and it looked like Marquez was the one that had been worked out.
You are correct, but I am hard pressed to use guys who have lost before as a measuring stick for a guy who hasnt lost in 18 years. A guy who is dogged if he moves (called a runner) is called shot if he stands and trade. Maidaina IMO landed because he kept aiming from for the side of PBF's skull. Man how many fighters train to land somewhere other than the face, forhead, nose, cheek, jaw? Hitting the ears, I can see. Only fighter Pac has fought that uses their legs well is JMM & Bradley. Sad that people dont give credit to Bradly for really having a fractured foot. Not a Haye-Bunion toe. Fight two Bradley lost well, but if he doesnt fold, neither does PBF.
In fact, I think this may be a cakewalk for PBF, based on his style. Pac is a great fighter, but what pressure can he use to stop a guy -that last time he chose to use his legs (last fight) looked like Castillo fight II? A wash.
Re: How will Floyd's life be affected if he gets knocked out?
He may become light in the loafers....:rolleyes:
Re: How will Floyd's life be affected if he gets knocked out?
Taking less money in a second fight would bother Floyd more then being ko'd.
Re: How will Floyd's life be affected if he gets knocked out?
If somehow Floyd gets KO'd he'll start with the "All the greats have loses" sh-t :p
Re: How will Floyd's life be affected if he gets knocked out?
I was expecting Naseem Hamed to make this big drama if he lost his undefeated record but I it was surprising to see how he took it quite well. Hopefully we see that if Floyd gets to lose.
Re: How will Floyd's life be affected if he gets knocked out?
He has two fights left, if he loses or it's a close decision there will be a rematch before the end of the year. I doubt Floyd will do a Hagler and just retire if he loses, he will avenge and reclaim then retire. Mayweather would have to suffer a humiliating early round KO loss for him to just give it all away.
Re: How will Floyd's life be affected if he gets knocked out?
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Floyd Mayweather will become a doorman at the MGM Grand a little midget with a top hat and cane with 3 girls on each arm all tongue in his ear and hoping to get a ride in his Ford Escort two door hatchback because he will be one broke ass piece of s*** the way he does speed balls and coke and the way he goes through champagne with the prostitutes. Didn't we can watch Adrian bubblegum Broner come to his aid and bail him out
I would agree based on Mayweather's persona in the media, but has had someone behind him that has taken care in making sure he and his kids is set for his lifetime. If you take a look at county records his properties is are all owned under trust accounts. It basically means they are paid for and no one can touch them. If his properties are in a trust, most likely he has money set aside to make sure is living needs are too. So I doubt you will see any Tommy Hearn's like stories about Mayweather 20 or 30 years from now. Although he may end up in prison or the next OJ story.
