He can't realistically go from Algeri to Mayweather expecting anything but an ass-whipping.Quote:
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He can't realistically go from Algeri to Mayweather expecting anything but an ass-whipping.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
How many great boxers have retired in the past? Boxing is still here and doing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerWe're not talking about a "couple of fighters", we're talking about the two biggest draws in boxing history. You can take every single boxer currently fighting and add up all the money they generate, and it wouldn't even come close to matching what these guys make. And that money is going to be gone sooner than later: both guys are nearing 40 and have hinted at retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
You take any industry or economy and take away it's two biggest sources of income, and it's going to have a drastic effect. You can't even argue it. I've heard so many people here say that Floyd and Pac retiring isn't going to have an effect on boxing. I'd love to know who they think is going to make up the difference.
Floyd will retire, Wald will retire and boxing will go on. Slightly diminished? Certainly not, their retirement will mean matches to fill the void, if any exist. IMO
Vlad mentioned alongside Floyd is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedHow many great boxers have retired in the past? Boxing is still here and doing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerWe're not talking about a "couple of fighters", we're talking about the two biggest draws in boxing history. You can take every single boxer currently fighting and add up all the money they generate, and it wouldn't even come close to matching what these guys make. And that money is going to be gone sooner than later: both guys are nearing 40 and have hinted at retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
You take any industry or economy and take away it's two biggest sources of income, and it's going to have a drastic effect. You can't even argue it. I've heard so many people here say that Floyd and Pac retiring isn't going to have an effect on boxing. I'd love to know who they think is going to make up the difference.
Floyd will retire, Wald will retire and boxing will go on. Slightly diminished? Certainly not, their retirement will mean matches to fill the void, if any exist. IMO
He is nothing in this Country and his ratings prove it.
Not popular like Floyd or Manny in the US but hugely popular in Europe and Russia. If he fought more in the US his ratings would be much better, not that I really give a squat about ratings.Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteVlad mentioned alongside Floyd is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedHow many great boxers have retired in the past? Boxing is still here and doing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerWe're not talking about a "couple of fighters", we're talking about the two biggest draws in boxing history. You can take every single boxer currently fighting and add up all the money they generate, and it wouldn't even come close to matching what these guys make. And that money is going to be gone sooner than later: both guys are nearing 40 and have hinted at retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
You take any industry or economy and take away it's two biggest sources of income, and it's going to have a drastic effect. You can't even argue it. I've heard so many people here say that Floyd and Pac retiring isn't going to have an effect on boxing. I'd love to know who they think is going to make up the difference.
Floyd will retire, Wald will retire and boxing will go on. Slightly diminished? Certainly not, their retirement will mean matches to fill the void, if any exist. IMO
He is nothing in this Country and his ratings prove it.
Don't forget that boxing is a worldwide sport and isn't centered in the US. Wait till it takes off in China, those will he exciting days for boxing fans. Agreed? Lol I'm going to have fun pissing you off!
Joshua is up there as a star.
Broner had all the chance in the world to be a world star also, in fact he practically was, but fucked it.
You need an unbeaten, somewhat invincible, hopefully charismatic guy to bring the casual fans on board
Charismatic and regularly kayoed don't work
Another 80s Tyson isn't going to emerge. I dunno :-\
From a Brit angle I'd love to see Joshua grow into such a superstar - especially now Audley's retired too
theres a huge reason he isnt popular outside his own regionQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedNot popular like Floyd or Manny in the US but hugely popular in Europe and Russia. If he fought more in the US his ratings would be much better, not that I really give a squat about ratings.Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteVlad mentioned alongside Floyd is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedHow many great boxers have retired in the past? Boxing is still here and doing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerWe're not talking about a "couple of fighters", we're talking about the two biggest draws in boxing history. You can take every single boxer currently fighting and add up all the money they generate, and it wouldn't even come close to matching what these guys make. And that money is going to be gone sooner than later: both guys are nearing 40 and have hinted at retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
You take any industry or economy and take away it's two biggest sources of income, and it's going to have a drastic effect. You can't even argue it. I've heard so many people here say that Floyd and Pac retiring isn't going to have an effect on boxing. I'd love to know who they think is going to make up the difference.
Floyd will retire, Wald will retire and boxing will go on. Slightly diminished? Certainly not, their retirement will mean matches to fill the void, if any exist. IMO
He is nothing in this Country and his ratings prove it.
Don't forget that boxing is a worldwide sport and isn't centered in the US. Wait till it takes off in China, those will he exciting days for boxing fans. Agreed? Lol I'm going to have fun pissing you off!
and a huge reason hes not popular in america and thats nothing to do with his nationality
Broner still has a chance to be a star...he's still more popular and well paid than most fighters;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Manny has been KTFO several times and he's still a star.Same holds true for Vlad...to a lesser extent.
Boxing is still centered in the US....always has been and always will be.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedNot popular like Floyd or Manny in the US but hugely popular in Europe and Russia. If he fought more in the US his ratings would be much better, not that I really give a squat about ratings.Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteVlad mentioned alongside Floyd is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedHow many great boxers have retired in the past? Boxing is still here and doing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerWe're not talking about a "couple of fighters", we're talking about the two biggest draws in boxing history. You can take every single boxer currently fighting and add up all the money they generate, and it wouldn't even come close to matching what these guys make. And that money is going to be gone sooner than later: both guys are nearing 40 and have hinted at retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
You take any industry or economy and take away it's two biggest sources of income, and it's going to have a drastic effect. You can't even argue it. I've heard so many people here say that Floyd and Pac retiring isn't going to have an effect on boxing. I'd love to know who they think is going to make up the difference.
Floyd will retire, Wald will retire and boxing will go on. Slightly diminished? Certainly not, their retirement will mean matches to fill the void, if any exist. IMO
He is nothing in this Country and his ratings prove it.
Don't forget that boxing is a worldwide sport and isn't centered in the US. Wait till it takes off in China, those will he exciting days for boxing fans. Agreed? Lol I'm going to have fun pissing you off!
Suck on that one while you on your knees.
China ain't changing shit,even somebody like you should know that.
You might not give a shit about ratings but the people that matter sure as hell do.
The difference of the hundreds of millions of dollars Floyd and Pac generate every year for boxing, and all the millions that Klitschko generates in Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterMake up what difference? Boxing is a global sport it's not the UFC.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerWe're not talking about a "couple of fighters", we're talking about the two biggest draws in boxing history. You can take every single boxer currently fighting and add up all the money they generate, and it wouldn't even come close to matching what these guys make. And that money is going to be gone sooner than later: both guys are nearing 40 and have hinted at retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
You take any industry or economy and take away it's two biggest sources of income, and it's going to have a drastic effect. You can't even argue it. I've heard so many people here say that Floyd and Pac retiring isn't going to have an effect on boxing. I'd love to know who they think is going to make up the difference.
Boxing has always been a "star" attraction. Contrary to what most seem to think here, boxing does not sell itself. A boxing match can be held in a banquet hall in front of 30 people, or it can be at the MGM Grand in front of millions of spectators and PPV buyers. It all depends who's in the ring.
Guys like PBF and Pac bring in millions of dollars for not only themselves but the promotional companies, the broadcasters, the venue, the city, ect. They generate true mainstream interest that in turn brings more interest to boxing. The money they generate gives the promotional companies the overhead to put on more shows and pay more boxers. The interest they generate gives guys like Al Haymon the momentum to make deals like the NBC one, where boxing returned to primetime network television for the first time in many years.
A genuine boxing superstar isn't a job position that you can just take resumes for and reposition. It's a rare thing to find someone who can resonate with the general public and be a big PPV seller. Yeah, boxing will always be around, England will find guys who can fill up Wembley stadium, but America - which is the MECCA of boxing, let's not kid ourselves - is going to take a hit. I'd still love to have someone explain to me how losing your biggest revenue source is good for any business or economy. Fucking retards...
When boxing's biggest stars retire the money they generate is gone. Genius.
http://stickandmove.co.uk/wp-content...out-boxing.jpg
God damn fuckin mo-mo's over in the UK, jesus. ;D
How did boxing survive before Floyd had his 10 fights at the MGM Grand on PPV? Remarkable.
Broner is still more unpopular and well paid than most fighters is what you should have said.Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteBroner still has a chance to be a star...he's still more popular and well paid than most fighters;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Manny has been KTFO several times and he's still a star.Same holds true for Vlad...to a lesser extent.
The man is a very good fighter, but in his attempt to be Floyd II he has made himself look like a clown.
When Manny, Floyd, Wlad, and Froch retire, all those boxing promoters around the world are probably going to throw their hands up in the air and say, "That's the end of boxing as we know it. What the hell are we going to do now?"Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerThe difference of the hundreds of millions of dollars Floyd and Pac generate every year for boxing, and all the millions that Klitschko generates in Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterMake up what difference? Boxing is a global sport it's not the UFC.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerWe're not talking about a "couple of fighters", we're talking about the two biggest draws in boxing history. You can take every single boxer currently fighting and add up all the money they generate, and it wouldn't even come close to matching what these guys make. And that money is going to be gone sooner than later: both guys are nearing 40 and have hinted at retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
You take any industry or economy and take away it's two biggest sources of income, and it's going to have a drastic effect. You can't even argue it. I've heard so many people here say that Floyd and Pac retiring isn't going to have an effect on boxing. I'd love to know who they think is going to make up the difference.
Boxing has always been a "star" attraction. Contrary to what most seem to think here, boxing does not sell itself. A boxing match can be held in a banquet hall in front of 30 people, or it can be at the MGM Grand in front of millions of spectators and PPV buyers. It all depends who's in the ring.
Guys like PBF and Pac bring in millions of dollars for not only themselves but the promotional companies, the broadcasters, the venue, the city, ect. They generate true mainstream interest that in turn brings more interest to boxing. The money they generate gives the promotional companies the overhead to put on more shows and pay more boxers. The interest they generate gives guys like Al Haymon the momentum to make deals like the NBC one, where boxing returned to primetime network television for the first time in many years.
A genuine boxing superstar isn't a job position that you can just take resumes for and reposition. It's a rare thing to find someone who can resonate with the general public and be a big PPV seller. Yeah, boxing will always be around, England will find guys who can fill up Wembley stadium, but America - which is the MECCA of boxing, let's not kid ourselves - is going to take a hit. I'd still love to have someone explain to me how losing your biggest revenue source is good for any business or economy. Fucking retards...
Are you trying to say Manny, Floyd, and Wlad are bigger than boxing?