When Floyd and Manny retire...

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Originally Posted by Master

You are mad, of course he should be paid to entertain. He was lucky to be in the right place to get the deal. People watch Floyd because of the opponent, preferably Latin, to see Floyd get beat and/or it is on a holiday.

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He gets paid to compete in a sporting event, to generate interest, to put asses in seats and to make people buy the PPV. He does all those things better than any boxer who has ever lived, which is why he gets paid more than any boxer who ever lived.

Luck has nothing to do with it. He is an undeniably amazing talent, he was ruled by Bob Arum who never though he had any real earning power in the sport, he believed in himself and bought himself out of his contract for large amount of money, started handling his own affairs and became the richest athlete in the world.

You can say he's an asshole or that he's not exciting, but he's got a great story. Worked his ass off, paid his dues, took chances, played his cards right and became the biggest thing in the history of the sport.

Floyd Mayweather is not exciting and a complete ass hole.

The problem is there hasn't been the guy that beat the guy. So it's going to be rough when they retire. I don't see any tremendous talent out there that can be a ppv star. Although we will see some great fights, there won't be that one dominant star for atleast another 5 years.

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Originally Posted by Master

Floyd Mayweather is not exciting and a complete ass hole.

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There are two things we can agree on.

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Originally Posted by Master

Floyd Mayweather is not exciting and a complete ass hole.

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Question: How many fighters have superior skills, but choose to bang?
The one that comes to mind for me is Evander. Very good boxer, who at times chose to slug it out.

How many boxers would choose to bang-if they had Floyd's ring IQ & abilities?

I concur on the Ahole part.

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Originally Posted by SlimTrae

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Originally Posted by Master

Floyd Mayweather is not exciting and a complete ass hole.

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Question: How many fighters have superior skills, but choose to bang?
The one that comes to mind for me is Evander. Very good boxer, who at times chose to slug it out.

How many boxers would choose to bang-if they had Floyd's ring IQ & abilities?

I concur on the Ahole part.

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The best fighter in the past 25 years did Roy Jones jnr.

Not sure I agree. But not sure how to counter.

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The best fighter in the past 25 years did Roy Jones jnr.

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Roy Jones hardly ever banged. He carried many an opponent and pot-shotted his way to many a 12 round victory when he got up to 175.

Diddo Beanflicker!

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The best fighter in the past 25 years did Roy Jones jnr.

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Roy Jones hardly ever banged. He carried many an opponent and pot-shotted his way to many a 12 round victory when he got up to 175.

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You kidding! Roy stopped many opponents and had a punch. Roy was entertaining and brought excitement.

No one stops Hopkins or Toney so all he could do was comprehensively outclass them.

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Originally Posted by Master

You kidding! Roy stopped many opponents and had a punch. Roy was entertaining and brought excitement.

No one stops Hopkins or Toney so all he could do was comprehensively outclass them.

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Roy was entertaining and brought excitement... when he wanted to.

He had a lot more power than Floyd in both hands, but he also did a fair bit of dancing and coasting in his career. The guy was a human highlight reel but that's over his whole career. He had his share of stinkers.

His first fight with Bhop was one of the worst title fights ever.

But even when he was throwing leather, he was never "banging". He was always defensively-minded and used his insane reflexes to avoid punches. Arturo Gatti "banged". Roy Jones was hardly ever hit clean in the first 15 years of his career.

Roy became less exciting at 175 when his power wasn't as pronounced as it was at 160-168.

Floyd doesn't have a lot of power and he doesn't cut weight, which means he's always fighting guys with 10-25 functional pounds on him on fight night. Floyd had a lot of exciting performances in his career and did a lot of virtuoso highlight reel shit when he was younger. He was lighting guys up with both hands. He was having a conversation about the superbowl mid fight with Jim Lampley during his fight with Bruseles, before knocking him out with a body shot.

Now he's an old fan fighting guys much bigger and younger than him. His exciting days are over.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Roy became less exciting at 175 when his power wasn't as pronounced as it was at 160-168.

Floyd doesn't have a lot of power and he doesn't cut weight, which means he's always fighting guys with 10-25 functional pounds on him on fight night. Floyd had a lot of exciting performances in his career and did a lot of virtuoso highlight reel shit when he was younger. He was lighting guys up with both hands. He was having a conversation about the superbowl mid fight with Jim Lampley during his fight with Bruseles, before knocking him out with a body shot.

Now he's an old fan fighting guys much bigger and younger than him. His exciting days are over.

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Long long gone, when was his last legitimate stoppage?

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He was always defensively-minded and used his insane reflexes to avoid punches. Arturo Gatti "banged". Roy Jones was hardly ever hit clean in the first 15 years of his career.

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This is the argument breaker here- punchstats, compubox what have you- always showed RJJ a rarely hit fighter.


Impossible to bang & not get hit. RJJ was the consummate pot shotter.

@ the time Floyd fought Corley- he only had one loss- and not a bad one to Zab Judah.


To this day I am at a lost for words why PBF vs Corley isn't mentioned much.

Floyd is always being dogged for fighting guys moving UP in weight, but when he moved UP in weight it was like an expectation.

1st fight @ 140 and he not only banged with Corley-- he dropped him several times.