When Floyd and Manny retire...

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You kidding! Roy stopped many opponents and had a punch. Roy was entertaining and brought excitement.

No one stops Hopkins or Toney so all he could do was comprehensively outclass them.

Roy was entertaining and brought excitement... when he wanted to.

He had a lot more power than Floyd in both hands, but he also did a fair bit of dancing and coasting in his career. The guy was a human highlight reel but that's over his whole career. He had his share of stinkers.

His first fight with Bhop was one of the worst title fights ever.

But even when he was throwing leather, he was never "banging". He was always defensively-minded and used his insane reflexes to avoid punches. Arturo Gatti "banged". Roy Jones was hardly ever hit clean in the first 15 years of his career.

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Roy became less exciting at 175 when his power wasn't as pronounced as it was at 160-168.

Floyd doesn't have a lot of power and he doesn't cut weight, which means he's always fighting guys with 10-25 functional pounds on him on fight night. Floyd had a lot of exciting performances in his career and did a lot of virtuoso highlight reel shit when he was younger. He was lighting guys up with both hands. He was having a conversation about the superbowl mid fight with Jim Lampley during his fight with Bruseles, before knocking him out with a body shot.

Now he's an old fan fighting guys much bigger and younger than him. His exciting days are over.

[Master]

Roy became less exciting at 175 when his power wasn't as pronounced as it was at 160-168.

Floyd doesn't have a lot of power and he doesn't cut weight, which means he's always fighting guys with 10-25 functional pounds on him on fight night. Floyd had a lot of exciting performances in his career and did a lot of virtuoso highlight reel shit when he was younger. He was lighting guys up with both hands. He was having a conversation about the superbowl mid fight with Jim Lampley during his fight with Bruseles, before knocking him out with a body shot.

Now he's an old fan fighting guys much bigger and younger than him. His exciting days are over.

Long long gone, when was his last legitimate stoppage?

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Long long gone, when was his last legitimate stoppage?

You mean you don't count the sucker punch on Ortiz?

[Master]

Long long gone, when was his last legitimate stoppage?

You mean you don't count the sucker punch on Ortiz?

No way!

That is why I hate when he talks crap about knocking out his opponent or going back to basics and chopping trees BS like that will give him some power.

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No way!

That is why I hate when he talks crap about knocking out his opponent or going back to basics and chopping trees BS like that will give him some power.

He saw clips of Foreman and Shavers doing it and got the idea I guess.

He's old, he's got brittle hands and he's not a big puncher. He's not going to be KOing anyone at this point for sure.

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agreed

[SlimTrae]

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He was always defensively-minded and used his insane reflexes to avoid punches. Arturo Gatti "banged". Roy Jones was hardly ever hit clean in the first 15 years of his career.

This is the argument breaker here- punchstats, compubox what have you- always showed RJJ a rarely hit fighter.


Impossible to bang & not get hit. RJJ was the consummate pot shotter.

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@ the time Floyd fought Corley- he only had one loss- and not a bad one to Zab Judah.


To this day I am at a lost for words why PBF vs Corley isn't mentioned much.

Floyd is always being dogged for fighting guys moving UP in weight, but when he moved UP in weight it was like an expectation.

1st fight @ 140 and he not only banged with Corley-- he dropped him several times.

[Master]

@ the time Floyd fought Corley- he only had one loss- and not a bad one to Zab Judah.


To this day I am at a lost for words why PBF vs Corley isn't mentioned much.

Floyd is always being dogged for fighting guys moving UP in weight, but when he moved UP in weight it was like an expectation.

1st fight @ 140 and he not only banged with Corley-- he dropped him several times.

Floyds first fight at welterweight was?

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Guess I'd have to look up his first at 147...don't remember.

[Master]

Guess I'd have to look up his first at 147...don't remember.

Sharmba Mitchell

[Beanflicker]

Guess I'd have to look up his first at 147...don't remember.

Sharmba Mitchell

Who, incidentally, the great Manny Stewart picked to beat Floyd hahaha.

Floyd's best years are well behind him, but I still say that at 140 and below he was an absolute thrill to watch more often than not. At 130 he was a VICIOUS boxer-puncher with power in both hands. 135-140 he was often very exciting and did a lot of Roy Jones-like shit.

Watch him predict the Super Bowl mid-fight and then go berserk and get the KO.



Great fight with Ndou, who was 31-1 with 30 KOs coming in. Great virtuoso offence on the outside and inside. Floyd stood straight in front of the puncher and threw bombs of his own.



Vs Gatti... I know Gatti wasn't exactly Ray Robinson in there but was a masterpiece in virtuoso offence.