I have decided that Saunders is overrated and I'm going to back him to lose by KO every time he fights, don't mind me;D
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I have decided that Saunders is overrated and I'm going to back him to lose by KO every time he fights, don't mind me;D
Yes he has more experience, but my point is he needs to do something better than he did in the first fight. Those first 6 rounds weren't a slow start , it was a "Boxing brain" thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
He didn't have ANY experience, it was the first good boxer he had faced and he was able to hurt him repeatedly once he found a home for his shots. You could be right, but that wouldn't say much for Eubank. I feel like rematches usually go to the guy who was able to genuinely hurt their man the first time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo what would Eubank do differently ? Why did he start so slow?Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Maybe he started slow because he didn't have enough ringcraft to suss Saunders out?
If it happened again, the result would be the same.
He needs to find a way to get in range and land , maybe improved footwork . Those are things I haven't seen.
He was managing to land in the second half of the fights because he was fitter than Saunders, I'll give him that all day long.
My point is that Saunders is a good , but not brilliant fighter, but he was far too savvy for Eubank, so where does that put Eubank?
Answer. Not as good as him or many people think.
You're probably right, and I kind of wasn't factoring in the two being the same age. Even still, there are no good fighters in England, they all bums! I got milk baby!
sounds like fighting talk right there my friend...Terry Flanagan is from England and he is a world champion I'll have you knowQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Batmansounds like fighting talk right there my friend...Terry Flanagan is from England and he is a world champion I'll have you knowQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
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Eubank is better now as he has gone the distance and that experience will give him extra confidence in the rematch.
Saunders will be better because he is now champion and will pace himself better.
I was in the Jr would win a rematch camp. However, watching their latest fights against Spike and Lee I don't see why Billy Joe wouldn't outbox him again. To slick, clever with no evidence he can be easily chinned.
I also think Jr's power is overrated. He hits good fighters with the kitchen sink without decking them. Either he's unfortunate to keep coming up against granite beards or he's not banging as hard as it looks.
I'm not too sure about that, I think eubank would fight him for free to be honest he's desperate for that re matchQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanSaunders said he would give him a rematch on his terms after he won a title.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3Saunders promised eubank a rematch after he won a title. So Saunders has his title so he should honour his word and offer the re match but don't see if happening if I'm honest, I think Saunders knows he will get beat and would rather get beaten by a bigger name than eubank jr.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
I don't know if discussions have even been mentioned yet but I can see that being a massive sticking point given the size of JR's ego
I don't think Eubank or his Dad would even Fart for free! If you don't believe me, ask Hearn or Warren . He's left Hearn to pursue a British Title belt over a World Title strap for the sake of 10 or 20 grand, and Warren has said on numerous occasions that they are impossible to do business with.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3I'm not too sure about that, I think eubank would fight him for free to be honest he's desperate for that re matchQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanSaunders said he would give him a rematch on his terms after he won a title.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3Saunders promised eubank a rematch after he won a title. So Saunders has his title so he should honour his word and offer the re match but don't see if happening if I'm honest, I think Saunders knows he will get beat and would rather get beaten by a bigger name than eubank jr.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
I don't know if discussions have even been mentioned yet but I can see that being a massive sticking point given the size of JR's ego
Obviously he was joking about free but what he is saying Eubank would jump at a chance for revenge but he will wait as he has his pride and ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI don't think Eubank or his Dad would even Fart for free! If you don't believe me, ask Hearn or Warren . He's left Hearn to pursue a British Title belt over a World Title strap for the sake of 10 or 20 grand, and Warren has said on numerous occasions that they are impossible to do business with.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3I'm not too sure about that, I think eubank would fight him for free to be honest he's desperate for that re matchQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanSaunders said he would give him a rematch on his terms after he won a title.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3Saunders promised eubank a rematch after he won a title. So Saunders has his title so he should honour his word and offer the re match but don't see if happening if I'm honest, I think Saunders knows he will get beat and would rather get beaten by a bigger name than eubank jr.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
I don't know if discussions have even been mentioned yet but I can see that being a massive sticking point given the size of JR's ego
Froch/Groves comes to mind? Shavers/Holmes? lololol... Corrales/Castillo?Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingHe didn't have ANY experience, it was the first good boxer he had faced and he was able to hurt him repeatedly once he found a home for his shots. You could be right, but that wouldn't say much for Eubank. I feel like rematches usually go to the guy who was able to genuinely hurt their man the first time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo what would Eubank do differently ? Why did he start so slow?Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Maybe he started slow because he didn't have enough ringcraft to suss Saunders out?
If it happened again, the result would be the same.
He's not a banger. Partly because he is not that good of a boxer. Saunders chinned Lee because Saunders knew how to punch, and Lee was just standing there.... Eubank couldn's possibly chin Lee by the way he fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
All that said, Jr. has that "Larry Holmes" kinda power. Not enough to disable you like a frag grenade, and certainly not nuclear bomb power ala Tyson/Lewis/Tua, but more like FLASHBANG grenades.... that if thrown close enough you can rip your arm off, or lose an eye, at the very least. But to say it would be fatal upon impact each and every time? Nahh... Just enough to disorient you from seeing the incoming fire, which by both Holmes and Eubank's standards IS fast and furious.
Of course he'd jump at the chance for revenge, who wouldn't ? But it don't work like that, he has to do something to earn it, and beating O'Sullivan isn't enough. And the pride and ego that you mention is exactly what holds the fight back. Team Eubank don't and won't accept that they are the "B" side in this scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterObviously he was joking about free but what he is saying Eubank would jump at a chance for revenge but he will wait as he has his pride and ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI don't think Eubank or his Dad would even Fart for free! If you don't believe me, ask Hearn or Warren . He's left Hearn to pursue a British Title belt over a World Title strap for the sake of 10 or 20 grand, and Warren has said on numerous occasions that they are impossible to do business with.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3I'm not too sure about that, I think eubank would fight him for free to be honest he's desperate for that re matchQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanSaunders said he would give him a rematch on his terms after he won a title.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3Saunders promised eubank a rematch after he won a title. So Saunders has his title so he should honour his word and offer the re match but don't see if happening if I'm honest, I think Saunders knows he will get beat and would rather get beaten by a bigger name than eubank jr.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
I don't know if discussions have even been mentioned yet but I can see that being a massive sticking point given the size of JR's ego
If Saunders wasn't Champ and didn't have a load of options, yeah , he'd entertain all the shit that comes with dealing with the Eubanks, but as it stands , the fight only happens on Saunders' terms at the moment and that's why I don't think it'll happen.
Saunders should fight Canelo if he has the choice WITHOUT CATCHWEIGHTS!!!
I believe Eubank can go one better and win a legitimate title and then will have more leverage over Saunders.
Ironically a bit like when Benn won the WBC title in Italy and negotiated a better deal against his dad.
I don't reckon a Eubank will beat Jacobs IF he ever fights him, and I don't think he fancies his chances either. The only other champs are Saunders, Canelo & GGG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
And anyway , what do you mean by "can go one better and win a legitimate title ?" Isn't Saunders Title legitimate? And if Eubank wins one , why is it "one better?" :)