Re: The WBA looks STUPID!
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IamInuit
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Thing is though, as much as fans hate it, the fighters and promoters love it.
And that’s the thing that is the most puzzling and most disturbing. It’s not just "money" and if it is then these people are thieves. It’s something else and it’s almost as if fighters are wired differently even though there are still some around that we could legitimately call throw backs. It’s been nurtured though imo. The whole concept of risk and reward has been changed. I think the eighties started us down this past and more specifically Ray Leonard. He changed prize fighting. A separation occurred though. If only he had a longer career. Shelf life entered the equation. Leonard fought everyone and took risks...(big ones) and because of it was the first 100 million dollar fighter. He could have made that 100 million today having never fought those battles. Today it’s a bluff and these fighters, promoters and broadcasters have to know it.
I believe it was just as much about money back then as it is now. There's just more opportunity today.
If there was one champ per division today, and that was where all the riches were, the fighters would be falling over themselves to become the no.1 challenger.
True is some respects but apples and oranges really overall. Sure it was about money but also literally putting a meal on the table. Most fighters today would not have survived the Jewish Ghetto in New York or Langfords activity and that of many others. The 0 most likely would not exist. Risk and reward has done a 360 errrr 180.
To me its a sad testimony that everyone wants the WBC who is the most corrupt and fake champions holder over the last 40 years. It says something about a status quo that fighters would seek to covet such a false object and treat it as the exact opposite of what it is making millions along the way with a false representation. Its not a question of where's the beef. The beef has been taken out of the recipe and substituted with tofu. Risk ergo reward is now Reward without it and paper titles. We rarely even get unified champions anymore. Sadly a 1 belt system today most likely wouldn't work.
The cure is as bad as the disease now.
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Re: The WBA looks STUPID!
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Kirkland Laing
I bet they're feeling like a bunch of total idiots as they sit there counting their multiple sets of sanctioning fees for each weight class.
What good is the money when the fighters do not value the titles and people question them?
It's ridiculous isn't it. The top lads at the WBA are all making loads of money and living nice lifestyles but they don't realise that what they're doing has no sporting integrity whatsoever.
Re: The WBA looks STUPID!
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Master
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I bet they're feeling like a bunch of total idiots as they sit there counting their multiple sets of sanctioning fees for each weight class.
What good is the money when the fighters do not value the titles and people question them?
It's ridiculous isn't it. The top lads at the WBA are all making loads of money and living nice lifestyles but they don't realise that what they're doing has no sporting integrity whatsoever.
I am sure they are not on loads of money and who can take them or the belt seriously.
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When have you ever heard a fighter rubbish a belt? They love them. The only people that know they're true worth - from a who's the best in the world point of view - are boxing nerds.
Re: The WBA looks STUPID!
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Master
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Kirkland Laing
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Master
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Kirkland Laing
I bet they're feeling like a bunch of total idiots as they sit there counting their multiple sets of sanctioning fees for each weight class.
What good is the money when the fighters do not value the titles and people question them?
It's ridiculous isn't it. The top lads at the WBA are all making loads of money and living nice lifestyles but they don't realise that what they're doing has no sporting integrity whatsoever.
I am sure they are not on loads of money and who can take them or the belt seriously.
The WBA makes millions of dollars a year renting belts out you daft bugger. If you were making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year as one of the bosses you'd probably be able to close your eyes to the fact that your organisation wasn't the most reputable sporting institution, wouldn't you?
Re: The WBA looks STUPID!
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Kirkland Laing
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Master
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Master
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
I bet they're feeling like a bunch of total idiots as they sit there counting their multiple sets of sanctioning fees for each weight class.
What good is the money when the fighters do not value the titles and people question them?
It's ridiculous isn't it. The top lads at the WBA are all making loads of money and living nice lifestyles but they don't realise that what they're doing has no sporting integrity whatsoever.
I am sure they are not on loads of money and who can take them or the belt seriously.
The WBA makes millions of dollars a year renting belts out you daft bugger. If you were making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year as one of the bosses you'd probably be able to close your eyes to the fact that your organisation wasn't the most reputable sporting institution, wouldn't you?
No I would fight for the more prestigious title if I was the best in the division.
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Why fight for a WBA title if it's meaningless?!!?
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Re: The WBA looks STUPID!
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Why fight for a WBA title if it's meaningless?!!?
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Or any strap. I ask myself that question every time I hear Broner boast of being a 4 division champ. As if it translates to being a great fighter.
I think to a lot of big names trinkets are nothing but door prizes. Tons of guys make the decision every week to lose it on the scale rather than to work hard enough prior to keep it. When I see a diva already with 5 belts wrapped around his waist, shoulder, forehead and two held up by corner people add yet another..its empty. When I see a longshot long time plugger come up and win just one you know its just made his career, just means more. These are the guys who do make weight and pay rent.
Re: The WBA looks STUPID!
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ykdadamaja
Why fight for a WBA title if it's meaningless?!!?
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Or any strap. I ask myself that question every time I hear Broner boast of being a 4 division champ. As if it translates to being a great fighter.
I think to a lot of big names trinkets are nothing but door prizes. Tons of guys make the decision every week to lose it on the scale rather than to work hard enough prior to keep it. When I see a diva already with 5 belts wrapped around his waist, shoulder, forehead and two held up by corner people add yet another..its empty. When I see a longshot long time plugger come up and win just
one you know its just made his career, just means more. These are the guys who do make weight and pay rent.
Spot on here.
